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Simple Justice: Seeing It Through The Cops' Eyes, Part 2
Seeing It Through The Cops' Eyes, Part 2
In an effort to appreciate the "new professionalism" that guides our police, as noted by Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia whenever he explains why the old sanctions to prevent cops from beating people are no longer needed, it's critical that we keep on top of new law enforcement tactics. From Packratt at his new blog, Injustice Everywhere, I learned of a new one: Distraction.
Richard Rodriguez fled in a car from El Monte police, who followed in high speed pursuit. He abandoned the car and ran, and they continued to follow. Eventually, the chase came to an end, with Rodriguez giving up by lying supine on the ground, spread eagle. He was very wrong to flee as he did. And apparently quite unfamiliar with the tactics of new professionalism.
Officer George Fierro was the first to run up to Rodriguez and, in mid stride, kicked him square in the face while he laid prone waiting to be arrested. A lawyer for the police union in El Monte claims that this kick is a “Distraction Technique” that all officers are trained to perform and are justified to use by departmental policy… apparently so is the tactic of repeatedly hitting a prone suspect in the back with a flashlight and instructing one’s K9 unit to bite his legs as two other officers proceeded to do when they arrived shortly after Fierro.
While the description is fine, the "impact" of the "impact" is better made visually. To save you some time, the first 5:25 is video of the high speed chase. If you're a fan of chases, enjoy, but otherwise jump ahead.
5/24/2009 2:02 PMJohn Kindley wrote:
Bet this video doesn't make it on to an episode of "World's Scariest High-Speed Police Chases" on Spike TV. We've got shows like these and "World's Dumbest Criminals," with a clear editorial view of who the good/professional guys and who the bad/stupid guys are. We need a TV show called "World's Most Brutal Cops" or "Cops Gone Wild" to bring this other side of the story to the masses. There would be no shortage of material, judging by how regularly this stuff pops up. Won't happen though, except on the internet. Reply to this
5/25/2009 11:27 AMJdog wrote:
I disagree. I think that when somebody engages in a high speed evasion, endangering the public, authorities should be able to administer appropriate physical punishment -- say, a kick to the head with a boot, followed by several blows to the kidneys with a "baton," and do so on the spot.
'Course, I think that before that happens, we really need to change the laws a lot, to allow the badged enforcers of law and justice to do so, with the check on misbehavior on such things coming from, say, the Crown; the king should be simply be able to have the head of one of his servants mounted upon a pole, if he decides that the kick was inappropriate. It would tend to restrain the impetuous.
I should be the king, of course. Bet I could meet a lot of chicks that way. Reply to this
Calming down . . . I have a lot of sympathy for the cops' feelings, in that sort of situation. That's why I think it's so important that punitive thumping be so consistently punished, rather than so consistently condoned. Reply to this
5/25/2009 12:00 PM
SHG wrote:
Forget about the cops' feelings (which will be assuaged with lengthy and expensive therapy), but what of the dogs? They could catch something. Reply to this
5/26/2009 1:25 PM
Steve wrote:
why are police dogs taught to bite in the vicious, ferocious manner that they do? A dog can bite without flailing so that the person cannot move that limb, does the ripping of flesh gain police anything? Reply to this
5/28/2009 8:54 AM
J.C. Johnson wrote:
As a former LEO and instructor for the US Navy VBSS Teams, I cannot see any reason for a solo officer to have physically engaged this suspect. The officer should have held the suspect at gunpoint until back up arrived. The El Monte Police Chief's assertion that this was a "distraction technique" is ridiculous. This suspect will make more money via the 1983 complaint than he reasonably could in his vocational lifetime. Reply to this
5/28/2009 9:59 AM
SHG wrote:
It seems to me that the reason for the kick (and what followed) is obvious: The suspect clipped a cop during the pursuit and the fellow officers administered a good tuning up. You don't hurt a cop and walk away untouched. While totally wrong, it's completely understandable. The whole "distraction technique" thing is just a, well, "distraction technique." Reply to this
Bet this video doesn't make it on to an episode of "World's Scariest High-Speed Police Chases" on Spike TV. We've got shows like these and "World's Dumbest Criminals," with a clear editorial view of who the good/professional guys and who the bad/stupid guys are. We need a TV show called "World's Most Brutal Cops" or "Cops Gone Wild" to bring this other side of the story to the masses. There would be no shortage of material, judging by how regularly this stuff pops up. Won't happen though, except on the internet.
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If they had a show called "Cops Gone Wild," would anybody watch?
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Yes. What am I, chopped liver?
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If you have to ask . . .
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. . . you may as well be served with some onions on the side.
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I disagree. I think that when somebody engages in a high speed evasion, endangering the public, authorities should be able to administer appropriate physical punishment -- say, a kick to the head with a boot, followed by several blows to the kidneys with a "baton," and do so on the spot.
'Course, I think that before that happens, we really need to change the laws a lot, to allow the badged enforcers of law and justice to do so, with the check on misbehavior on such things coming from, say, the Crown; the king should be simply be able to have the head of one of his servants mounted upon a pole, if he decides that the kick was inappropriate. It would tend to restrain the impetuous.
I should be the king, of course. Bet I could meet a lot of chicks that way.
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I gather you didn't notice the dog bites.
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I was so disgusted, actually, that I didn't. My fault.
Calming down . . . I have a lot of sympathy for the cops' feelings, in that sort of situation. That's why I think it's so important that punitive thumping be so consistently punished, rather than so consistently condoned.
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Forget about the cops' feelings (which will be assuaged with lengthy and expensive therapy), but what of the dogs? They could catch something.
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why are police dogs taught to bite in the vicious, ferocious manner that they do? A dog can bite without flailing so that the person cannot move that limb, does the ripping of flesh gain police anything?
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As a former LEO and instructor for the US Navy VBSS Teams, I cannot see any reason for a solo officer to have physically engaged this suspect. The officer should have held the suspect at gunpoint until back up arrived. The El Monte Police Chief's assertion that this was a "distraction technique" is ridiculous. This suspect will make more money via the 1983 complaint than he reasonably could in his vocational lifetime.
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It seems to me that the reason for the kick (and what followed) is obvious: The suspect clipped a cop during the pursuit and the fellow officers administered a good tuning up. You don't hurt a cop and walk away untouched. While totally wrong, it's completely understandable. The whole "distraction technique" thing is just a, well, "distraction technique."
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