My initial reaction was "why?" Why would he do this? Why would he say this? Of the many things that have passed my consciousness over the years, few are as inexplicable as this. Like anyone else, it caused me to strain to find an answer, but nothing came.
I'm talking about the interview by Anderson Cooper of David Martin, the attorney who tried the Cameron Todd Willingham case, which Mark Bennett posted at
Defending People. Given the intense pressure that arose from the overwhelming post mortem evidence that Willingham was innocent, coupled with the additional pressure arising from Texas Governor Rick Perry's scuttling of the his Forensic Science Commission's personnel on the eve of its hearings, there was certainly an abundance of interest in what happened at trial.
But as far as I've heard, no one has suggested that it was Martin's fault that Willingham was convicted and sentenced to death. Maybe I'm not close enough to the local scuttlebutt to know what's being whispered around the ranch, but no one has openly challenged Martin as a flaming incompetent, personally responsible for the death of a human being.
So why would Martin do this?
Looking in from the outside I must say I was speechless when I saw that interview. God help ANYONE who has that person as their attorney. How could you ever trust him?
Surely there are some sort of Code of Ethics that attorneys are meant to abide by?
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There is, and it precludes the attorney from disclosing client confidences, even beyond the death of the defendant. It's especially egregious when it happens after the death of a defendant, when he's no longer there to challenge the lawyer's outrageous statements.
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I'm a 5th generation Texan and can assure you that anyone that appears in a TV studio with a cowboy hat does not do so because he's been "out chasing cows".
If no one has been accusing him of incompetent defense then they should be doing so.
I'm not sure if he's a wanna be cowboy or a wanna be lawyer. Probably both.
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I wondered about that, being that it doesn't take a whole lot to remove one's hat before grabbing a seat in front of the cameras. But knowing how sensitive Texans can be, I figured I would leave that call to someone more attuned to rancher fashion. Thanks for filling the gap.
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Basically, the cowboy hat is a Texas yarmulke; all you know about somebody wearing it is that he's a frum Texan.
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True fact, especially when said cowboy hat is worn indoors during a nationally-televised interview, rather than outside providing highly practical sun protection, or at the local honky tonk.
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Mr. Martin’s statement about conducting an experiment with lighter fluid and getting the exact same kind of patterns that he saw in the Willingham residence actually proves the point of the fire scientists who have researched the development of fire patterns in fully involved compartments.
While it is true that you can make a pattern with an ignitable liquid in the open, you can make that same pattern without an ignitable liquid inside a compartment. Patterns produced during full room involvement can look exactly like patterns produced by an ignitable liquid, and care must be taken in their interpretation. In fact, if the laboratory report comes back negative, the pattern should be attributed to the radiation that accompanies full room involvement.
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Thanks for the details.
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I have read in another blog that David Martin was so incompetent at defending Willingham, that he is no longer allowed to try capital cases. Is there any way to confirm or deny this? If true, this could be why Martin made the statements he did.
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David Martin is a former state trooper. I think his behavior exemplifies the brokenness of the Texas 'justice' system.
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I hope Mr. Martin's cattle business is thriving, because he should never get another client who would want his representation.
I was shocked to see such behavior. I was a police detective for over twenty (20) years and I currently conduct many criminal defense investigations. I provide my clients with expert, professional service and when all is said and done, I finish the case and that is that. I do not discuss my client with anyone without his/her approval.
There is no investigator/client privilege per se, however, I do have a retainer agreement with the client's attorney which does constitute "attorney work product" and that is an important part of the case.
All of that being said, I have "Honesty & Integrity" and those are
more important than 10 minutes on TV.
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When a man tells you he has honesty and integrity, you'd better keep a hand on your wallet.
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You may be referencing Emerson's quote; "The more he spoke of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons." I find your attempt at publicly humiliating me offensive and it shows how small you really are! One should keep their comments on topic. You Sir! Don't know me, however, we all know you, a small insignificant man, who because he went to law school feels he has the right to shoot off his mouth at will. You are probly the type of attorney who would speak ill of his client as Martin did.
My integrity is beyond reproach and I expect a public apology in this forum.
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I think Bennett's comment wasn't intended to suggest anything about you, and your initial comment reflected your deep concern for integrity. It was more a joking way of saying that you had no need to tell anyone of your honor and integrity, we could see it in what you said.
Sometimes, a bit of snarkiness comes off wrong in comments, He's a damn good lawyer, and like you, deeply concerned with serving his clients.
And you have clearly demonstrated your integrity by expressing the importance of maintaining client confidentiality (and noting the very important point of the PI working under the lawyer to enjoy his privilege) and your disdain for Martin's outrageous conduct.
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Mr. Golodner, I'm impressed with the Emerson quote. That said, Mr. Bennett is known as a highly ethical lawyer who would NEVER do what Mr. Martin did to Mr. Willingham. He also has a dry, cynical sense of humor that many enjoy. Don't take it so personally - life's too short.
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If this was my misunderstanding, then let me take the high road and apologize to Mr. Bennett. I may have shot from the hip (pun intended) too quickly. As a detective with the NYPD I prided myself on having a thick skin. I guess I've been retired a while and my skin has become a bit thin.
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I accept your apology. Thank you.
You really should work on that thin-skin thing—when you take offense so readily, you seem to have a guilty conscience.
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One of the more frustrating things that can happen to somebody who -- legitimately or otherwise -- [prizes | prides himself] on his integrity is to have that questioned. Alas, probably the single most counterproductive thing to do when that happens is to simply assert it. Neither Richard Nixon nor Mother Teresa could make "I am not a crook" work.
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Also counterproductive is calling your own integrity into doubt by asserting it when it hasn't been questioned.
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How dare you say that to me! You're questioning my integrity!
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Just get a hotel room already, will ya?
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