Arizona to Los Angeles: Muérdame

Clap on.  Clap off.  Nothing.

The City of Los Angeles has threatened an economic boycott of Arizona in protest of its new immigration law.  That would be the one requiring police officers to hunt down swarthy looking individuals to make certain they are properly stamped.  Did Los Angelinos really think they could strong arm Arizonians?  Hah!

Via NBC de LA :

An Arizona utility commissioner said he’s willing to pull the plug on Los Angeles if the city goes through with a boycott of his state.

In a letter to the city of LA, a member of Arizona’s power commission said he would ask Arizona utility companies to cut off the power supply to Los Angeles. LA gets about 25 percent of its power from Arizona.

And it’s a carta excelente tambien.

If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation.

I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.

Electrons off your hands.  Heh.  Clearly, this guy knows his electric.  Of course, if LA doesn’t want to send its business to Arizona, it shouldn’t have to.  And if Arizona doesn’t want to send its electrons to LA, it shouldn’t have to.  And if they set up police roadblocks at the borders with well armed militia-types, and they don’t want any limousines with California plates coming in, well, there’s a right for that too.

For quite a while, the federalization of America has left us to think that states were a quaint anachronism, pretty much flags and television commercials for tourism dollars, but otherwise largely the same as part of the greater American whole.  After all, we’re American, and kids in uniforms are dying for the American way of life even as I type.  Nobody is out there claiming that we’re fighting in Afghanistan or Iraq for the Arizona way of life, or the California way.

As policy differences between states become manifest in ways we haven’t seen in generations, it raises some interesting questions and brings back reminders of the days when our nation was sufficiently at odds with itself to divide.  It’s hard to imagine war breaking out between LA and Arizona, but then Governor Jan Brewer, having redefined reasonable suspicion and banned ethnic studies in public schools to prevent an outbreak of knowledge, is a fierce defender of our American way of life.

The biggest question is whether anybody would really care if Arizona, Texas and Florida decided to go it on their own.  Imagine the savings in medicare and welfare alone.  Seriously, how many people from LA go to Arizona anyway?

H/T Turley (to whom I’m far too kind)

20 comments on “Arizona to Los Angeles: Muérdame

  1. John Beaty

    Except that LA owns the power plants.

    Ooops.

    Maybe LA wants to not sell any of its power to Arizona.

  2. SHG

    How cool is that!  This could really get ugly, with LA sending in the troops to protect it’s national interests in the Republic of Arizona. The Balkans have nothing on us.

  3. R. Raymond

    Both of you need to better check your facts. The NBC de LA quote is a real distortion of what the commissioner wrote, and LA does not “own” Palo Verde. Three CA utilities have a 30.4% share, APS and SRP have a 46.6% share, NM and El Paso the remainder.

    The LA area is also dependent on water farms in AZ and a portion of AZ’s Colorado River allotment. The commissioner wrote a letter, in tenor like many of your posts SHG, pointing out the stupidity in a boycott because of the interdependence.

    Finally, why don’t you two discuss the CA Prop 187, the precursor to many of these laws.

  4. JKB

    Do you really think a phalanx of fruits and nuts from LA would stand a chance against a regiment of Arizona Rangers commanded by Sheriff Joe?

    BTW, LA W&P owns 25% of the plants not all but worse, if they stopped drawing from the plants, they would, god forbid, have to build power plants in California.

    Still I like the commissioner’s put up or shut up challenge to LA.

  5. SHG

    I wrote that commissioner’s letter was excellent. I love it.  You probably didn’t understand because I said it in Espaniol, which is what confused you since it didn’t involve the words “no mas, no mas.”

  6. SHG

    Boy, this post really is bringing out the stupid in people.  Do you really think “a phalanx of fruits and nuts from LA” is likely to attack?  Though it seems awfully easy to beat Crazy Joe.  Just point the other way and scream, “the Mexicans are coming.”

  7. R. Raymond

    The Arizona Rangers were disbanded in 1909 before Statehood in 1912. The current organization is an all volunteer group, like Sun City’s group, and not law enforcement. They’d lose.

  8. R. Raymond

    Actually it’s “Espanol” with a tilde over the “n”. And I understood your sarcasm quite well, what I’m tired of is the misrepresentation of what is going on to the point of falsehood. Which really comes from you believing what you read in “The Huffington Post” for example. Given that you’ve written before on how slanted “news” reporting can be, I’m surprised you swallowed that article wholesale. Even Hispanics have complained about the La Raza Ethnic studies in Tucson. But of course they’re racists.

  9. SHG

    So you didn’t like my misspelling of español (with tilde)?  I’m sorry that you feel so badly about all this, but no one likes being the target of national anger and ridicule.  If it makes you feel better, I barely skimmed the HuffPo post.

  10. Jdog

    Do you really think “a phalanx of fruits and nuts from LA” is likely to attack?

    Nah. It’ll be an armored cav maneuver, not a phalanx. The techno-hoplites a for crowd control, not invasion; the SWAT APCs will swing wide, speakers blaring the lilting tunes of Muy Dinero (Spanish for “very money”, as any WKRP watcher would know) to distract the locals, while the infantry will sweep in and take the plants.

    After that, basically, it’s “all your electrons are belong to us.”

    As to the whole banning on ethnic studies thing, I think the answer is clear. Extensive research by professor Penelope “Che” Stadium-Lipshitz of UCLA’s prestigious Fidel Casto Center for the Continuing Study of Why America Sucks Rocks has determined that all ethnics studies programs are “peachy-keen”, while, of course, professor Hiram Weasel, the U of C’s holder of the William Kemmler Chair of Electrical Studies, argues that they are necessarily “shockingly bad.”

    But I digress.

  11. SHG

    Well, I’m glad that’s cleared up.  I saw a naked pic of Penelope on the internet.  She’s not that hot.

  12. JKB

    Okay, okay. I get it. No tongue in cheek comments and no references to disbanded 19th century law enforcement/militia organizations.

    As for the likelihood of LA to attack, well, failed states can be unpredictable. They often provoke inane conflict with neighbors to deflect the attention of the populace. (and for the literal, I concede LA is not a state)

  13. R. Raymond

    So I should like a lawyer who “barely skims”? Really?

    And if you’re going to do the come on with Spanish, get it right. Sheesh. Do I have to call on Bugs Bunny?

    You’re just avoiding the point, however entertainingly. By the way, polls put the majority of Americans on the Arizona side. Oohh, the minority opinion. The majority are obviously racist. See Sidney Hook.

    I still love you. No matter how difficult you choose to be. :>)

  14. R. Raymond

    OK. How could you have thought law enforcement when they were disbanded in 1909? Really, I’m beginning to worry about your meds. At first I thought I had to worry about his, given he thought the current “AZ Rangers” were law enforcement, but now you think they were “hockey players”? You worry me.

  15. SHG

    Sigh, so now I have to be serious?  Okay.  I am aware that the majority of Americans favor the Arizona law.  The overwhelming majority of Americans would not support the fourth amendment.  This is not a persuasive.  The overwhelming majority love laws that they believe favor their interests at the expense of the minority’s interests.  This is called the tyranny of the majority.  It’s an evil the Constitution was intended to prevent.

    I’ve addressed the law in the past, which is why it’s not necessary for me to spell it out again here.  I’ve heard the arguments for it, and I am remarkably unpersuaded, as are many others.  I’m not going to change your mind, which is fine.  But you aren’t going to change mine either.

    Am I really that difficult?

  16. charles platt

    How many Californians come to Arizona? Far too many. Most of them seem to come here to escape the regulatory environment in California which has been a major factor in bankrupting it. We rather wish they’d go back home. But, Arizonans are generally very tolerant people. That’s why they put up with the most horrendous consequences of illegal immigration for many years before finally suggesting that if the federal government wasn’t going to enforce its own laws, maybe local government could do so. For some reason this has been a controversial concept.

    As a legal resident alien, I carried a green card for 20 years because that’s the federal law. (Check it out.) Sometimes I showed it when I was asked for identification. I had no problem with that, because I regarded it as a privilege to be here. Of course, people who invade the nation illicitly and then act as if they are doing the US a favor by being here, don’t share my outlook. Their attitude of entitlement disgusts me.

    Now that I am a naturalized citizen, I carry my passport with me. I have no problem with that either. This nation does not exist for my convenience. It graciously allowed me to move here from my country of birth, and I appreciate that. Identifying myself seems a very reasonable quid-pro-quo.

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