The blind squirrel is alive and well in Florida, as the Bar Association gets one right.
A well-meaning attempt to strengthen protections against bullying in the legal profession may have gone too far, at least according to the Board of Governors.
This fall, the Rules Committee voted 7-0 to add guidance that subdivision (d)’s prohibition applies to “bullying and intimidating other lawyers,” in the comment to the Misconduct Rule (4-8.4). The proposal grew out of a recommendation by the Florida Bar Special Committee on Gender Bias.
Of course they have a special committee on gender bias, and what would you expect such a special committee to do? The rule they sought to change is 4-8.4(d), which makes it misconduct to:
(d) engage in conduct in connection with the practice of law that is prejudicial to the administration of justice, including to knowingly, or through callous indifference, disparage, humiliate, or discriminate against litigants, jurors, witnesses, court personnel, or other lawyers on any basis, including, but not limited to, on account of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, national origin, disability, marital status, sexual orientation, age, socioeconomic status, employment, or physical characteristic;
After all, what sort of horrible lawyer would discriminate against a litigant on the basis of socioeconomic status, like, oh, paying legal fees? Or disparaging litigants by calling them, you know, rapists or murderers? So horrifying. But hey, what about “bullying and intimidation”?
Banning “bullying” and “intimidation” in that context would put any lawyer who conducts an aggressive deposition or writes a strongly worded letter on behalf of a client at risk of formal disciplinary action, Tanner said.
“How many of you have defended a deposition and had your witness systematically dismembered by a very forceful, but very professional, deposition-taker on the other side? Is that intimidating? You bet it is,” Tanner said. “As sure as we sit here, somebody later will say, ‘Well I got that letter, I’m feeling very intimidated by it.’ And off we go.”
Intimidation, Tanner said, is often in the eye of the beholder.
Some might even say that intimidation is a valuable part of the lawyer’s arsenal, the ability to scare the living crap out of a witness, or a kid attorney, in order to achieve a client’s ends. Remember clients? Those are the people we serve, whose lives and fortunes are placed in a lawyer’s hands and who depend on our using every lawful means available to zealously represent them.
If a witness can be intimidated into admitting a lie, that’s what we do. If our adversary can be intimidated into offering a better settlement, a better plea, that’s what we do. But what about bullying?
Board member Wayne Helsby, whose Winter Park firm specializes in labor and employment law, said “bullying” defies a clear-cut legal definition.
“I represent a number of school districts, and school districts have been grappling with this issue,” Helsby said. “It’s an ambiguous term.”
Board member Wayne Robinson said no attorney should be subject to disciplinary action for a conduct that “can’t be clearly defined.”
Bullies are bad. Everybody says so. Surely, no frail lawyer wants to be manhandled into the courthouse restroom and given a swirly, right? Except that’s not really the problem. While people use the word “bullying” all the time to refer to other people’s actions that make them feel badly, coerced, pushed into an uncomfortable position, is that bullying or is that just a lawyer using the word as a substitute for being weaker than his adversary?
Beverly Hills, Calif. attorney Richard Friedman, an out-of-state Bar member, sent the only written response to the board’s formal notice of the proposed rule change. Friedman urged the board not to adopt “Nanny rules to protect attorneys.”
“First, it is commonplace for good lawyers to assess the deficiencies of their legal opponent and to use that for the benefit of their clients,” Friedman wrote. “Secondly, any attorney who can be bullied or intimidated by another attorney should resign from the legal profession.”
And Friedman nails it, despite whatever the sad sacks of the bar claim between sobs and moans. If a lawyer can’t manage to handle an adversary who tries to “bully and intimidate” them, they have no business being a lawyer. Somebody was mean to you? Awww. You can either kick their butts across the room or ball up in the corner and cry about the mean lawyer.
Lawyers are fighters. Not necessarily as a personality type, but as a professional duty. If you’re not up to the fight, then there’s always that assistant manager job at Dairy Queen where your biggest issue will be whether a customer complains that you under-sprinkled his cone.
While the American Bar Association has been overtaken by the unduly emotional forces of social justice, the Florida Bar Association has refused to succumb to the current flavors available from Mr. Softie. For once, they got it right. At least for now.
H/T Skink
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“or discriminate against… jurors… on any basis…”
Wow. You can tell some thought went into that one.
Any strikes, counselor?
Why no, Judge. That would be discriminatory.
It might give Batson some teeth, though.
After all, a black cop on the jury is still black, right?
Cops are always blue. Everyone else they see is black.
Most hilarious is the socio-economic status thing. BigLaw is inherently a longstanding pyramid scheme. It depends on the exploitation of young, impecunious lawyers, by partners with big books of business, who can (and do) treat associates as marginally relevant and fungible. Law firms ARE discrimination against “other lawyers” based on “socio-economic status.” But, with Rule 8.4(g), I can only assume all the large firm morons who pushed the rule are fully prepared to open firm voting to the associates and staff attorneys. They must be.
In a few years, those mean old partners will be gone and the impecunious youth will be in charge, and everyone will get a tummy rub and never have to show up for work again to enjoy those huge paychecks.
In the course of even those few years, some of the youth, perhaps 5%-9% of them, will (inadvertently, I’m sure) acquire their own client bases, bank account balances and partner positions in their firms. Fortunately, THEY will understand the fundamental injustice of treating the owners of the business differently than the employees, and will never lower themselves to engaging in such per se discrimination based on socioeconomic status.
But I’m guessing the few jurisdictions that adopt this rule over the objections of their non-ABA practitioners will not wait until all the violators are gone. There will have to be complaints and enforcement actions to root out and disbar the bastards and bitches who insist on putting the top-earning rainmakers in corner offices, or on giving all the best parking spaces to senior partners, or excluding associates and staff attorneys from an equal say in firm management. they must go, every one of them, and it is an urgent matter that cannot wait for natural attrition. The discrimination must not be allowed to continue one day longer than it takes to process the complaints. (Presumably, ABA members engaging in the conduct will self-report and send in their licenses without need to resort to any formal proceedings).
It might behoove you to be less cute and more comprehensible.
It might, but none of my shoes would fit right with hooves.
Rumors that Jeannine Pirro is a bully are false. Rumors that she will be running for Andy Cuomo’s job are true. Rumors that she will no longer be vacationing in Florida are indeterminate,… in the eye of the beholder. Take your pick.
Pirro. Amazing where your mind goes, Bill.
Bully for them.
Part or the apprenticeship of being a young lawyer is that we all get snowed over by a wily older practioner. The difference is most people aspiring to be trial attorneys never think of calling the BBO to whine. They take their lumps, learn from it to make damn sure it never happens again, and employ it against others when possible.
So old school. Learn from it? I’m literally shaking.
I hope they don’t end “bullying” in the MO Bar. I am just getting old enough and experience enough to use my experience to bully, molest, and throw the other party off their game.
It would be just my luck the SJW would try to end a system I am just getting the hang of.
We just happen to know what MO stands for, having lived there a short two years. Yea, they can k!ck a$$ and run their coonhounds all over you’re property without asking or telling. Especially when you don’t talk the way they do, which is mostly *southern*. If you’re from the East or West coast, you’re D0A. They will stab you in the back and run you out of town. Siphon your gas, steal your chickens. They can dump you in the woods where you won’t be found for 1000 years, trust it. If you should be brown-skinned or black–or Jewish–it’s SunDown time.
P.S., I called Lincoln County recently, and they said things had improved since I was there. Ha. Don’t care,… I’m never going back. The land is beautiful however.
I luv this comment, Matthew, and know where it’s coming from. Thanx a bunch, and keep punching. It’s a nasty job, but somebody has to do it.
Billy Bob, I second your thoughts on Lincoln County. I always feel like an outsider when I go there. I think they can smell the St. Louis on me. If we were in person I would tell you funny stories about that place. I tried a case where the judge had her dog in the court room and we had to take a break so the dog could go outside!