My pal Carl, better known on the twitters as @HistoryBoomer, was kind enough to stop by Casa de SJ for dinner last night. Among our varied conversations, not the least of which was his eating peccadilloes, we talked about the kids. As a prof, Carl has a closer view of what young people are thinking and saying than an old lawyer like me, and his sense was that the unduly passionate are mostly on the fringes, with the majority of students reasonable, kind and open-minded. It was truly good to hear.
But then, what to make of this Harvard/Harris poll?
There is an ideology that white people are oppressors and nonwhite people and people of certain groups have been oppressed and as a result should be favored today at universities and for employment. Do you support or oppose this ideology?
Note that 18-24 number. The poll asked a complex question, which is unfortunate as it appears to conflate two issues of concern, whether white people are oppressors and whether people of color should be favored at universities and employment. It’s certainly possible to believe one and not the other, or believe one strongly enough to overcome a tepid sense of the other. But it may also mean exactly what it says, and even if the 79% reflects more one question than another, which one?
But there’s more.
Do you think that Jews as a class are oppressors and should be treated as oppressors or is that a false ideology?
While the percentages are somewhat different, they aren’t different enough to suggest that responses to the earlier question about white people are an anomaly. Are these the responses of a cohort that’s “reasonable, kind and open-minded”?
Carl is a very nice guy, forgiving to a fault and even more idealistic than me. It may be that the students who take his history course are more inclined to be open-minded, less dogmatic, in their embrace of progressive identity politics. It may also reflect the possibility that personal engagement tends to be more reasonable than grasping platitudes to one’s breast. It’s much harder to dislike any individual in real life than it is to hate an identity as a group or from a distance.
But I’ve long had a sneaking suspicion that much of this ideology has already become embedded in the basic worldview of young people. They don’t think about it, question it or challenge it. It’s simply what is, much as premises such as free speech and the ability to agree to disagree were basic premises of my liberal youth. We valued tolerance of impure thoughts. They value ideological purity. We heard the words of Martin Luther King ringing in our ears, to judge people not by the color of their skin but the content of their character. They put people in an identity slot, which informs them who is right and wrong, good and evil, and the only work left was to argue for their outcome until their interlocutor got too tired or annoyed and walked away. They believed they won, even though they persuaded no one outside their cohort.
As Eugene Volokh explains, the survey appears to be fairly valid.
This survey was conducted online within the United States from December 13-14 among 2,034 registered voters by The Harris Poll and HarrisX. Results were weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity, marital status, household size, income, employment, education, political party, and political ideology where necessary to align them with their actual proportions in the population. Propensity score weighting was also used to adjust for respondents’ propensity to be online.
And despite there being a fairly large margin of error, the results remain, well, unfortunate.
It seems likely that, of the 2,034 registered voters, only about 170 or so were age 18-to-24 (12% of the adult population, discounted for lower voter registration numbers), which would yield a margin of error of ±8%; even with that margin of error, the view that whites and Jews are oppressors would get huge majorities among 18-to-24-year-olds.
Considering this, what does this survey portend for young people as they leave classrooms like Carl’s and take their place in the workforce, Senate hearing rooms or the street? It’s one thing to support affirmative action based upon historic oppression of black people, but to hate Jews is where they ought to come to the realization that there is something deeply awry with their identity politics. But while some are seeing it, most appear to be quite satisfied putting Jews next to white people in the oppressor column so they know who to hate.
Update: Ilya Somin has made some very salient points about the accuracy of the survey.
There are multiple flaws in the way the question is designed, each of which may lead to skewed results. First, the question asks about two things at once: whether Jews, “as a class” are “oppressors” and whether they “should be treated as oppressors.” This is a survey no-no because it leads to inaccurate results among respondents who agree with one of the statements, but not the other, and because a compound question can easily confuse respondents who don’t read it carefully (which many don’t).
A second problem is basic political ignorance, which is a pervasive problem.
But, if so, you and your social circle are highly unrepresentative. Most of the general public is not like that. A majority of Americans can’t name the three branches of government, don’t know when the Civil War happened, and support mandatory labeling of food containing DNA (the latter probably because they don’t understand what DNA is). Political scientists also find that most of the public has little understanding of such basic political concepts as “liberal” and “conservative.” It would not be surprising if the same was true of many survey respondents’ understanding of “oppressor” and “ideology,” though admittedly I haven’t seen research specifically focused on these terms.
While the term “oppressor” is likely familiar to many in the 18-24 age group, that may not be sufficient to produce valid results.
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Gramsci was right about the strategy to innoculate society with leftist visions.
It is unfortunate that the current leftist societies are pretty much isolated and inaccessible to us, so that we cannot see them at first hand and compare the academic theory that is taught, with the reality of its implementation.
Prof. Volokh may think the survey is valid. I think it looks like a push poll, the first question suggesting the answer to the second. Professional pollsters should know better.
It remains to be seen whether the kids will hold to this stupidity once they try to live in the off-campus world, with loans coming due, and reality slapping them in the face a few dozen times every month.
“Loans coming due.”
Except that “loans coming due” is another form of “oppression.” Something else to blame on the Jews.
Describing a believer in “false ideology” is a comfortably gauzy way to describe a moronic racist son-of-a-bitch.
For those who are wondering, I am not Jewish and have known very few Jews over the years but those I have known have been intelligent, family centered, hard workers and masters of understated sly wit. Yes, most were lawyers so possibly not the best slice of the genre to base an opinion on.
Nothing here should come as a surprise to anyone who’s read “The Protocols of the Elders of New Haven”.
I often grapple with these ideas in my head, and tend to see sociopolitical movements as resting on a binary between the cold cruel physical plane we inhabit, and the spiritual plane that appears more virtuous. Within this, exists the inherent tension between the individual and group, as well as group vs group. Forgive the lack of definition etc here. Just going off top of my head. As this relates to the issue of oppression, I have to think that today’s youngsters have evolved in a more heterogeneous and possibly sheltered world. People in war torn nations become group oriented to combat the outsiders and will look at giving dignity to fringe identities as ridiculous or not a priority. Obviously this is a group vs group example. I’d say part of what has transpired in the US is that physical war is now a petty cultural war where a Trans activist might post YouTube videos of themselves becoming irate because some barrista misjudged their gender. The noble drive to make people kinder, more tolerant, diversified, equitable has taken root in a nation that increasingly disavows the jingoism of patriotism, nationalism as bigoted. But it is going full circle to the point where totalitarian, authoritarian political stances creep into the discourse. Afterall, attempting to squash any speech that might offend the latest sacred cow, is common. Previously used words like violence and hate have become so overused and diluted that theyre stand ins for poverty or simply not embracing the latest identity. The highest allegiance for some of these people has little to do with family ties, neighborhood, country or old religion. It’s a new religion called wokism or identity politics, etc. It’s so warped that major institutions in education and government attempt to implement the absurd excesses of dei at great cost. A paradigm that actually frowns at the values that give rise to success, as being racist.
The social justice warriors out there are not altogether different than the ancient clerics who sanctified tribal wars or the crusades, in some respects. The same critique applies to both: God gave man just enough religion to hate, but not enough to love. The new religion has replaced good vs evil with oppressor vs oppressed, paints the outgroup as incompetent or evil, does not seek to find some common ground or understanding. In fact, the language used is so ideologically bound that the groups have trouble communicating on any subtleties.
How did this get from the original statement regarding the young and the times they’ve grown up in? Why do the tolerant seem so intolerant? To me, it’s that ideology has harnessed the atavistic elements of human disagreement or conflict the way other authoritarian regimes have done in the past. I really hesitate to post this rambling, disorganized screed, but now that it’s written…
George Lincoln Rockwell would be proud of these children.
Churchill had something to say about this post and the previous, allegedly:
Those who aren’t liberal when young have no heart, and those who aren’t conservative when mature have no brains.
Or something similar.
Kurt