The “Legal” In Continuing Legal Education

It was bad enough that states began allowing Continuing Legal Education credit for courses in lawyer marketing.  You feel the need to market yourself?  That’s nice. So take whatever course you want, but that doesn’t mean is bears upon any purpose for which CLE credits are required.

The idea of continuing legal education was born of the notion that too many lawyers would allow their knowledge and skills to languish after passing the bar, leaving them substantively lacking while imbued with the monopolistic right to hold themselves out as qualified to represent others in the law.  CLE was made mandatory, since lawyers couldn’t be trusted to keep abreast of developments in the law on their own.  Schools and associations, not to mention a cottage industry of private fee-based providers, were authorized to provide CLE.  All to make lawyers more competent.  Really?

It was intended for the benefit of clients. And was then co-opted by lawyers for their own benefit. The argument was made that by better marketing, access to lawyers would improve, and clients would benefit by being able to find the “right” lawyer for their needs. 

Yeah, our ability to bullshit ourselves with facile arguments is one of our strongest skills. If only we were as good at cross-examination. But I digress.

There are CLEs in marketing, blogging, social media, all in the name of improving our knowledge so that we can serve society better.  If there is any saving grace, it’s that most of these CLEs are taught by people without a clue, so the joke is on the people who pay for them.  But at least they can use this nonsense to fulfill their credit requirements.

As lawyers continue their downward spiral into self-indulgence, a new call for CLE credits was made.

Four months ago, I experienced a transformative Mindful Lawyering program at New York’s Garrison Institute. As icing on the cake, the program even included three hours of talks, including one hour of legal ethics, to benefit those, like I, belonging to bars that require a minimum number of annual continuing legal education credits.

I timely filed an application with the Virginia Bar for the three CLE credits. Unfortunately, last month, the Virginia Mandatory Continuing Legal Education Board denied my request for CLE credits, with the ten-word explanation that “The program did not focus on a recognized legal topic.”

Yeah, sucks to pay for a course and not get CLE credit, particularly since CLE has turned into a joke anyway.  As long as any malarkey can be turned on its ear by some easy rhetoric into a benefit for clients, why not let a lawyer claim it?

The question here is not whether mindfulness is good or not, beneficial to lawyers or not. If you like to meditate, knock yourself out. If it relieves your stress and makes you feel all in the moment, great for you. I’m completely agnostic on the issue.

But unless we’ve given up any hope of CLE being anything beyond a farce, you don’t get CLE credit for doing something that makes you feel good.

The point of CLE, even though its been diluted by the marketing nonsense, is to improve skills and knowledge in the performance of our representation of clients.  It’s an opportunity stay up-to-date on the law, to learn or hone our skills, to be better capable of serving the only people who actually matter. Clients.

Learning to relieve our stress may be good for lawyers personally, and good for society in general, but it has only the most tenuous connection to our responsibilities as lawyers.  Yes, we can fabricate an argument that when we feel better, more focused, more in touch with our feelings, we can do better work as lawyers. But it’s a silly argument, a sham that rationalizes our personal comfort in terms of “anything that makes us happier makes us better.”

Certainly, lawyers who are drug addicts would do better for their clients with not being drug addicts. Does that make detox a proper subject for CLE credits?  And, of course, if we can’t get to court, we can’t do our best work for our clients. So why not make a mechanics course good for a few credits as well?

On the other hand, maybe the message here is that Continuing Legal Education was a nice theoretical idea, but as it worked out in real life, a waste of time and money. Those lawyers who care stay abreast of the law, keep their skills up to par and don’t need the bar association to ram expensive and worthless courses down their throats like errant children.

And if CLE is, in fact, a big joke, then why not mindfulness? Why not auto mechanics? What’s the difference if its all just a farce anyway?

If you want to go to mindfulness conferences, and feel that it will make you a better person, a better lawyer, that’s terrific. Have a good time.  Nobody says you can’t.  But expecting your desire to meditate to be counted as if it was keeping up to date on Supreme Court precedent, or the latest forensic scientific frauds and how to rip the prosecution’s experts throat out, is not the same thing.

Should mindfulness be an accepted subject for CLEs, then let’s admit that the CLE experiment was a bust.  Hey, good try, worth the effort, but it just didn’t work. And let’s end the farce and let lawyers do whatever they want to do to make themselves feel happy. Meditate on that for a moment.


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17 thoughts on “The “Legal” In Continuing Legal Education

  1. Dave

    I count my lucky stars that my state doesn’t have a CLE requirement. I don’t think it does anything useful to have one. Perhaps you can convince your state to join mine in sanity.

  2. mb

    I’ve long since stopped going to them, (you don’t need a license to work at Dairy Queen) but I thought learning was just a convenient rationalization and that the real reason for CLE was to transfer money from people who need licenses to people who are certified to teach classes, while simultaneously making Dairy Queen a more attractive career alternative thereby reducing competition and helping keep fees higher.

      1. mb

        Well, it’s not literally Diary Queen, but I suppose lawyers need construction materials in an indirect sort of way. The last CLE I went to was mostly a bunch of old, well connected, government employees preaching the importance of pro bono work to a bunch of mostly younger, mostly up to our eyeballs in debt, mostly underemployed people. I could make at least as good an argument for my class as they could for theirs, but that doesn’t really matter, does it?

        1. SHG Post author

          My feelings on the noblesse oblige of pro bono are fairly well known. On the other hand, I enjoy a well-made blizzard. I can make a better argument for the blizzard.

  3. Mitch

    I think CLE is needed, but I’m thinking many attorneys need more of a back-to-basics, law school refresher course than anything else.

  4. Peter Orlowicz

    One sort-of advantage to state requirements for CLE is that more employers are willing to pay for them (or reimburse the lawyer afterwards) that would likely do so if it were merely a recommendation (see, e.g. pro bono recommendations). This doesn’t do solo practitioners any good, of course. Good employers should encourage their attorneys to pursue learning opportunities, but without the bar license being held hostage to it, the economic incentives don’t point in the direction of permitting (or paying for) more CLE.

    There’s a bit of a catch-22, in that quality CLE on substantive topics (federal sector labor relations or representing Social Security disability claimants) provide good opportunities for busy lawyers to take the time, stop and evaluate areas where they could expand their knowledge and skills, forcing them to focus on the learning rather than on every other part of their practice. However, the lawyers most likely to take that opportunity and make the most of it are also most likely to be the ones who would seek out training even if it wasn’t required. On the other hand, lawyers who fulfill all their CLE credits through whatever random free webinars are available the weekend before the reporting period ends, probably don’t improve their practice skills much more than they would from a Mindful Lawyering class.

  5. losingtrader

    Colonics should be a required CLE credit course.
    Combine with meditation . All law partners in the firm must participate to demonstrate to each other how FOS they are.
    Yeah, I thought of this while flying into NYC just now , high on matzoh- ball whiskey from my still, pissed at the Pope for making my hotel room cost $699+ tax.

      1. losingtrader

        1) yes. It is. A legal scholar we both know who must remain nameless from this post, told me it was just like the Pope to step all over Yom Kippur.
        2) Until this evening,I never thought I’d utter the phrase, “God, I’m glad I’m in New Jersey .”

  6. TeeJaw

    I have lived in the era both before and after CLE became mandatory. CLE was better and cost less before it became mandatory. When it was made mandatory the quality seemed to drop and the price went up. If the goal was to keep lawyers brains in fit tune it didn’t work, and may have done the opposite. Once they realize it’s a scam many lawyers find ingenious ways to get the credits they need without spending their money and time on worthless CLE programs.

    For the good of the clients and lawyers alike it ought to be abolished. The Mandate that is. Then we’ll get good CLE again at a better price, or at least at a better value.

  7. Alice Harris

    Several years ago I was appointed as the lay member of a rather newly-formed board of geology in Florida, geologists having just become licensed professionals in the state. I was surprised that the board of geology had determined not to require continuing education for licensed geologists. The wise experienced geologists and educators on the board believed that those who wanted to continue their education and remain up-to-date would do so and that a CE requirement would benefit no one but the people who sell CE. Best thinking on the subject I’ve seen.

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