The best part of Alan Dershowitz’s Fox News op-ed is the title, Dershowitz: Mueller’s special counsel appointment begs the question — are our civil liberties now at risk? No doubt it was written by some wag at Fox, but its misuse of the logical fallacy, beg the question,* makes it deliciously delightful when it comes to brother Dersh.
But his rant has a point, even if proposed in the barely-concealed desire to be retained for the defense.
This investigation will be conducted in secret behind closed doors; witnesses will be denied the right to have counsel present during grand jury questioning; they will have no right to offer exculpatory testimony or evidence to the grand jury; inculpatory hearsay evidence will be presented and considered by the grand jury; there will be no presumption of innocence; no requirement of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, only proof sufficient to establish the minimal standard of probable cause. The prosecutor alone will tell the jury what the law is and why they should indict; and the grand jury will do his bidding. As lawyers quip: they will indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutor tells them to. This sounds more like Star Chamber injustice than American justice.
Should Dersh be forgiven his theft without citation of former New York Chief Judge Sol Wachtler’s “indict a ham sandwich” quip? He can’t blame that on some Fox News wag, but I digress.
While the Bob Mueller appointment thrilled many, as we would now get to “the truth” of the matter, Dersh correctly notes that it’s not quite so. This won’t be a trial, but just a one-sided investigation. Even if Mueller ends up issuing a report, which he’s under no obligation to do and might not happen for years, it’s still just “like, his opinion, man.”
It will not be subject to the crucible of cross or the opportunity of the accused to argue to the contrary. While Dersh’s argument borders on the hysterical, as civil liberties are no more at risk here than they are every day, the likelihood of Mueller’s results being misunderstood and, if a crime is found, given undue credence is high. Maybe even a certainty given the political climate.
But then, Eric Posner and Emily Bazelon go the alternate route, contending that Mueller’s appointment doesn’t absolve Congress of its duty to conduct its own investigation, a political investigation, against their hated Darth Cheeto.
Now the question is whether the Republicans who control the investigative committees in Congress will push as hard as necessary to find out whether Mr. Trump abused his power and violated his oath of office. In a crucial development, the House Oversight Committee and other Congressional panels have requested all materials related to Mr. Trump’s and Mr. Comey’s communications.
Notably, they list “abuse his power” and “violated his oath of office” as the focus of the investigations, two vague phrases of little legal consequence. They sound like terrible things too, and they may well be, if only they meant something concrete. Which is why these aren’t good goals for a legal investigation, but perfect for Congress.
As a structural matter, Congress is the institution best positioned to address the harms President Trump is causing, including trampling on norms separating politics from law enforcement and damaging America’s standing abroad, as well as the potential conflicts of interest posed by his wide-ranging financial holdings and the hiring of family members into key White House jobs.
This mash of grievances isn’t new, but covers legal issues as well as “stuff we just really hate when someone we really hate does it,” like “trampling on norms.” Norms aren’t laws, obligations, but ways of conducting oneself that have developed in polite society, whether for good reasons or just because. Why does a gentleman remove his hat indoors? So what if Trump doesn’t behave “presidential”? Wasn’t that part of the reason he was elected, to disrupt norms?
But Posner and Bazelon try to spin their demand of Congress to “take care” by tying it to the destruction of the office of the presidency, which may not survive Trump’s stewardship.
But Mr. Trump has created an entirely new problem for Congress, the courts and agencies: What do they do when the president himself is the pressing danger? Unlike other presidents, Mr. Trump has lacked the basic competence to manage the government. If Congress and the courts diminish the power of the office to constrain him, could they leave the office too weak for future presidents to be able to govern effectively?
This goes to a very fundamental question of whether we recreate law and politics, change and water down legal doctrine, to shut down the crazy President. The choice is whether to maintain in place our system of governance and law, because that’s how we’ve survived the past couple hundred years, or change everything because the unthinkable happened: we elected a president who has no clue how to run this nation. Posner and Bazelon make their choice:
The answer is that with the country at risk of serious harm from Mr. Trump, the damage to the office is secondary. The next president will just have to pick up the pieces.
So while Dersh fears that the public misperception of Mueller’s investigation will undermine public perception of civil rights, Posner and Bazelon fear it won’t oust Trump from power soon and publicly enough. The Fox News headline might be humiliating for an academic emeritus, but if anybody is begging the question here, it’s Posner and Bazelon.
*And for those of you who argue that the now-common incorrect usage is correct because that’s how people use it, and dictionaries now offer an alt definition, you deserve to be tarred and feathered. The solution to improper usage is not to validate it, but to correct it, current trends in pedagogy to respect inaccurate beliefs notwithstanding.
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“Notably, they list “abuse his power” and “violated his oath of office” as the focus of the investigations, two vague phrases of little legal consequence. They sound like terrible things to, and they may well be, if only they meant something concrete. Which is why these aren’t good goals for a legal investigation, but perfect for Congress.”
Yeah, well, impeachment isn’t a legal process. It’s a political one. Unless someone can point me towards the rigorous case law on ‘other unbecoming conduct’ under high crimes and misdemeanors’. I wrote my congressman and suggested they throw him in the lake to see if he floats. So far, no response.
Face it, dude, Bill Clinton did the congressional version of the perp walk for less than Trump has already done publicly. The orange baby king needs to know he’s not beyond reproach. Even if his reign survives the experience, it will be good for him and democracy. All those years of being surrounded by corporate yes men and those kids, bound to his will with golden shackles, has given him a warped sense of propriety that’s embarrassing our nation and undermining security.
There is a political process. It’s called an election. If the House impeaches him, then he will be tried in the Senate, as the Constitution provides.
“There is a political process. It’s called an election.”
Yep. But we didn’t elect a monarch, no matter how hard Trump and his supporters wish it were so. Everyone in this country has limits on their freedoms. Trump’s supporters may not care if he opens fire on 5th Ave, but I’m guessing the justice system would take note.
I admire a person who doesn’t isn’t afraid of the non sequitur.
I’m always impressed with your sincerity, no matter how insane the crap you pull out of your butt. It’s also great that you won’t let facts, law or logic get in the way of your feelz. You are the mindless sycophant every politician dreams about.
What you misconstrue is that Jake, like most non-lawyers, fails to see any issue with making up rules and meanings because he’s totally unconstrained by education, knowledge or experience. Jake is exactly whom these vapid posts are written for, desperate for validation of their beliefs and incapable of recognizing that they’re being played for fools by the artful use of meaningless but appeals words.
There is no freedom of belief greater than ignorance.
Dear Papa SHG,
The last line is great. Where’s the line for voluntary lobotomies? If ignorance is bliss AND freedom, why would anyone choose otherwise? Thinking is overrated and there are too many attorneys/lawprofs/law schools around anyway.
Yours,
PseudonymousKid
Sure it’s great, because,… it’s sooo incomprehensible. The Host is known for these periodic red herrings and balls into Left Field. (He’s testing the readership!)
Way to go, Kid. You’re getting off to a good start. Ha.
P.S.,, We are of the same opiiinion, more or less. Papa SHG, like Papa Hemingway. For crying out loud!
It pleases me to see you so triggered. I know the pain of losing momentum on all that sweet, sweet, deregulation on the legislative agenda is terribly upsetting for the Ayn Rand crowd.
Do you need a safe space? Maybe a hug?
Is everyone either an ally or a scum-sucking libertarian? Asking for a friend.
You mean thumb-sucking?!? Get real, Ayn Rand-breath. That regulation is best which deregulates least. Or did we get it backwards?
I call you a Libertarian (with a capital L) because I can read, not because we disagree. I leave the name calling when you disagree with someone to you and all your other sophisticated, brilliant commenters.
That’s why you’re so adorable.
Damaging our standing abroad. Well that tears it, we need to impeach that sumbitch because he pissed the Albanians off. I wonder if these people realize that their writing says a hell of a lot more about them than it does Trump.
As to the hat. You should remove your hat prior to entering the room and wave it around through the door. If your hat gets shot it tells you all you need to know. It also relieves the host from having to clean up a mess.