After being roundly criticized for her stunningly wrong (legally and politically, judging from Republican reactions) claim that “hate speech” isn’t protected under the First Amendment, Attorney General Pam Bondi attempted to weasel her way out by arguing that “hate speech” that “crosses the line into threats of violence” are crimes under 18 USC § 875(e). That, too, was wrong, as explained by Aaron Terr and Angel Eduardo of FIRE.
Early this morning, Bondi published a post on X, attempting to clarify her comments after a wave of negative response. Unfortunately, she only introduced more confusion:
Hate speech that crosses the line into threats of violence is NOT protected by the First Amendment. It’s a crime. For far too long, we’ve watched the radical left normalize threats, call for assassinations, and cheer on political violence. That era is over….
However, Bondi quickly shows that she doesn’t understand [the] narrow [true threats] exception, which doesn’t cover abstract advocacy of violence or “cheering on” political violence — speech that is, in fact, protected.
And yet, that was hardly the most flagrant display of ignorance about the law by Bondi that day.
The Hill (Ashleigh Fields) reports:
Attorney General Pam Bondi on Monday said the Justice Department was investigating an incident involving a Michigan Office Depot employee who refused to print flyers advertising a vigil for conservative activist Charlie Kirk…. Office Depot said last week they removed the employee responsible for denying the order placed by the Kalamazoo County Republican Party.
Here’s the Bondi quote, from Hannity on Fox, starting about 4:42:
Businesses cannot discriminate. If you wanna go in and print posters with Charlie’s pictures on them for a vigil, you have to let them do that. We can prosecute you for that. But I have Harmeet Dhillon right now in our Civil Rights unit looking at that immediately, that Office Depot had done that. We’re looking at that.
The MAGA faithful immediately leapt to the Masterpiece Cake case, analogizing the copying of a poster with the baking of a cake. While it’s understandable that non-lawyers would lack the capacity to distinguish between discrimination on the basis of sex and discrimination on the basis of political viewpoint, the former being prohibited and the latter not, Pam Bondi cannot be so easily forgiven.
Bondi is the Attorney General of the United States. Bondi was the Attorney General of Florida. Bondi is a lawyer. Bondi does not get a pass to spew legal nonsense as if she was a clueless lay partisan.
Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 bans discrimination by certain places of public accommodation—such as restaurants, hotels, theaters, and places of public amusement—based on race, [color,] religion, and national origin. But it doesn’t ban discrimination based on political views, and it doesn’t apply to retailers, so it wouldn’t apply here. It also bans discrimination based on disability, but that’s not applicable here either. Businesses can discriminate, just not on bases that the law forbids; and here, federal law doesn’t appear to forbid this sort of discrimination.
These are the sort of details that distinguish the way a lawyer analyzes a fact pattern as opposed to the superficial views of the public. It’s critical for lawyers not to make people stupider by ignoring the salient law and spewing nonsense instead. Sadly, Bondi is a lawyer. Sadly, that did not prevent Bondi from spewing nonsense and making people stupider.
According to the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the United States, which used to be the attorney general but has since been replaced by the unitary executive, the Trump administration is embarking on a war against his political opponents grounded in speech, as asserted by AG Bondi (hey, she’s the lawyer).
In the six days since Mr. Kirk was gunned down in Utah, Mr. Trump and his top officials have promised a broadside against the political left, indicating that they would go after liberal groups like George Soros’s Open Society Foundations and the Ford Foundation; revoke visas for people seen to be “celebrating” Mr. Kirk’s death; begin federal investigations into hate speech; and designate certain groups domestic terrorists.
Trump commenced a defamation suit against the New York Times and four reporters for being mean to him and endorsing Kamala Harris for president, asking for $15 billion in damages to his reputation. While the suit is frivolous, at least it’s merely a civil suit. What Bondi seems to promise is that there will be federal prosecutions against the enemies of the Trumpian state as well.
While such prosecutions are unlikely to be any less legally frivolous, the old saying kicks in: You can beat the rap, but not the ride. And no doubt this lawlessness and legal stupidity will receive the applause of the MAGA faithful, because like their woke mirror images, they care only about the outcome of destroying their enemies and nothing about the law or Constitution.
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it is
curiouspredictable that Scott harps about a left-wing construct (hate speech) being defended by a Trump AG, but the sins of commission by most recent Democrat AGs that terrorized countless American lives, the death of Charlie Kirk via Dems left-wing sponsored terrorist network, and the barbaric lawfare used by the aforementioned, don’t even get so much as a keystroke.But yeah, let’s all come together in unity because …..reasons
My yiddish is rusty, but אוי, איז ער אַ צבֿועק suffices to call out Scott’s hypocrisy….or is it lack of cojones?
Regards to Obama’s wingman
[Ed. Note: Sorry, but this one was too funny not to share.]
There are literally thousands of posts here. If you had any clue what Scott had to say when Obama or Biden was president, or about the Democrats, you would realize how stupid you look to the rest of us. But that would require you to both read and think, two things you are clearly not inclined to do.
But this is funny. At least you’re giving people here a good laugh.
Here are two columns where SHG was against regulating hate speech when Democrats were pushing banning it. (This is not all the columns, merely Google’s top 2 hits.)
Death to Hate Speech
https://blog.simplejustice.us/2015/05/07/death-to-hate-speech/
Thinking is Hard
https://blog.simplejustice.us/2015/05/21/thinking-is-hard/
SHG has been consistent that banning hate speech is bad no matter who is in power.
I fail to see how this emphasis makes him Obama’s wingman.
Thoughts and prayers for you and the other tragic sufferers from Advanced Cranial-Rectal Inversion Syndrome.
Beyond funny, just silly.
It’s unfortunate that nobody is recognizing the Three Stooges of the Trump Administration (Bondi, Patel and Bongino) as the greatest comedy team of our generation. Their unique style consists of making ridiculous statements with a straight face (“Epstein had no clients and killed himself”, “We are free speech absolutists but will prosecute hate speech against Dear Leader and his friends”) and then waiting for the audience to laugh. The vast majority of the audience inexplicably fails to get any of their jokes and instead takes them seriously. Trump voters cheer for attacks on free speech which had them clutching their hankies for a decade, and TDS sufferers likewise reverse their positions and vehemently support the right to advocate for violence. It’s as if Act Blue were to sponsor petitions to prosecute Moe for assault, while Fox News reported that corporal punishment was a constitutional right and nominated him for a Nobel prize.
I can guarantee you that there are many on the religious right who will state flatly that the assassination was motivated by religious prejudice (which IS covered by the law), and would be willing to place a small friendly wager that IF the issue is heard in court that argument will be made.
Please understand, I am not arguing the point, others are welcome to do so, but saying that the argument is/will be made – loudly.
[Ed. Note: The discrimination at issue is that of the person refusing to make the poster, not the motive of the person who killed Kirk.]
BTW, I came to your post via a link on the blog aggregator “lorenzo-thinkingout loud” and, as if on cue, 7 posts down I find the following from “Crisis” magazine: “Charlie Kirk’s death is not primarily about “free speech,” but about being a “witness” to the Christian faith – in Greek the word is μάρτυς (martyr).”
Again, I am not arguing the validity of the position, simply that it exists.