Today is International Women’s Day, started by the Socialist Party of America in 1909. Melinda Gates, who enjoys some celebrity based upon the vast wealth accumulated by her husband, informs us how to “celebrate” it today.

The World Economic Forum recently projected that it will take 208 years to close major gender gaps in the United States — but this should only take a few minutes. Take a moment from your Sunday routine to join me in marking International Women’s Day in a small, but potentially important, way: Start a conversation about gender equality. Even better, talk about it with someone you’ve never discussed it with before.

In 1909, there were major gender gaps in the United States. Women couldn’t vote. Women were expected to stay home, have children and spend their days caring for the house and babies. There were laws, in many instances, precluding women from breaking free of their chains. Where there were no laws, discrimination was open and notorious.

Today, women can vote. Women comprise the majority of college students. Women are now the editors-in-chief of the 16 most elite law school law reviews. Women can run for office, making the slogan of the Women’s Movement of the 1960s, “a women’s place is in the house…and senate,” a reality. They can even run for president.

You could talk about the unequal distribution of unpaid labor in our homes. Or the need for paid leave in the United States. Or the many ways our unconscious biases shape our understanding of who deserves to be hired, promoted and invested in.

You could just ask a question: “Did you know today is International Women’s Day?” “What changes do you hope to see for women and girls in your lifetime?” “How do you think I could be a better advocate for the women around me?”

The last question is an interesting one in particular, especially for those of us who were around, who were feminists, who believed in equality, before the rise of what’s called “third-wave feminism,” the one where some women have gone from seeking equality to seeking equity, from claiming they are as good as, and often better than, men to claiming fragility, lack of agency, a marginalized majority of the weak and oppressed, in need of discriminatory laws to favor them, male allies to fight for them and the authority to scold others for the words and deeds to the point of cancellation when they are offended.

What will this accomplish? The honest answer, of course, is maybe nothing. But another honest answer is that social change depends on interactions exactly like these.

While Melinda gives no reason to support her claim, letting it being the “honest answer” suffice because she said so, it’s International Women’s Day and she’s a woman, and we’re to believe the women, so let’s accept it at face value and have a social interaction “exactly like these.”

So let’s do as Melinda suggests and have that conversation. Are men “toxic”? Are women no longer responsible for their actions and choices? Have women chosen to forego equality because it’s not as much fun as they thought, and instead chosen “equity” to enjoy whatever special benefits they can without the unpleasant responsibilities that go with them?