Nobody wants to hear about a young person, a 13-year-old, dying. This is especially true when his death was caused by a cop. But heartbreaking though it may be, it fails to answer the question of whether it was a good shoot, no matter how angry an immigrant community may be about the death of one of its children.
The police stopped him and a friend who was straddling a bike on a quiet, working-class street around 10 p.m., officials said. The officers were investigating robberies and suspects described as Asian males with a black firearm. One suspect had been on a bike and the other had been walking, the police said.
When one officer asked to pat the boys down to “make sure you have no weapons on you,” Nyah fled, police body-camera footage shows. An officer chased after him, and the footage, when slowed down, shows Nyah turning with an object in his hand. The officer can be heard yelling “gun!” before tackling the teenager. Nyah held onto the object while he was on the ground, the police said. Seconds later, the footage shows, a second officer arrives. A gunshot is heard, but not seen.
The police said later that the object in Nyah’s hand was a pellet gun.
It’s not a mystery what happened. It was all captured on video.
The salient details aren’t in dispute. The police approached because the two youths matched the description of robbers using a gun. Nyah fled when the cops were about to do a pat down, which was entirely appropriate given that the two youths they were searching for were allegedly armed with a gun. And during his flight, Nyah, who fled rather than allow a pat down to ascertain whether he had a gun, turned with something in his hand, a black gun. The gun turned out to be a pellet gun.
Was the cop supposed to wait for Nyah to fire and, only then, find out whether the gun discharged a lethal round? Point a gun at a cop while fleeing and, well, bad things are going to happen. This doesn’t change because you’re only 13, still old enough to pull a trigger.
And yet, this shooting spurred outrage among a refugee group from Myanmar called Karen.
At the hospital, Utica’s lone Karen police officer spoke to Nyah’s parents, but she had not been at the scene and what she said about a shootout did not fully match what they later learned about the fatal encounter, the family said.
The discrepancies have intensified distrust between city leaders and the Karen, many of whom were already wary of military and police figures. Older Karen residents lived through decades of armed conflict with the government of their native country, a onetime British colony previously known as Burma. They endured displacements at home, fled state violence into neighboring Thailand and, as refugees, resettled in the United States.
There have been a spate of outraged protests stemming from a person of a certain race or ethnicity being killed by police, without regard to how or why. What “discrepancies” gave rise to issues here? What “discrepancies” change what is shown on the video? What was Nyah doing with a pellet gun at night, matching the description of armed robbers? What explains Nyah fleeing, with his pellet gun, from police?
The problem isn’t that the Karen community shouldn’t feel the pain of one of its youth being killed. It’s entirely understandable that they would, especially given their history as refugees in Myanmar. But there is nothing about that pain or that history that changes what happened on the street that night. It’s not that police targeted a child for death, but that even a 13-year-old with a gun can be an armed robber and kill a cop as he tries to flee.
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OT!H, I feel for the kid’s family and mourn the loss of a young life.
OTOH, stupid should hurt.
This is what some would call a “lawful but awful” shooting. The officers were entirely right in their actions but will carry a burden the rest of their lives. Meanwhile the family and friends will carry the burden of the loss of a loved one and, to an extent, a grudge against the cops.
That the one officer didn’t have the true facts at the hospital isn’t unusual. Much information is confused and inaccurate that soon after a traumatic event. It’ll be interesting to learn if the suspects are positively identified in the robberies.
What is the world coming to, when a kid can’t safely roam the quiet, working-class streets with his pellet gun, just because he meets the description of a robbery suspect?
The aside about colonialism is a massive red herring, since it’s obviously trying to imply the distrust has some direct origins in British policies towards the Karen; in reality, the Burmese persecuted them since for various reasons the British favored them over other ethnic groups. Besides not addressing why the police did what they did, it also misleads the great majority of the public that doesn’t have a background in Burmese history; that can only make it *more* difficult for the communities to understand and trust each other. Which is a real shame, since the Karen deserve much better, they’ve been subjected to more than their fair share of atrocities in the last 75 years.
I agree. This is a very sad story.
It does not make you a Karen to want to cry out to the management here. Part of it stems from denial – “our young Nyah Mway could not be a heat-packing criminal!” – followed by anger (“Nyah Mway is dead!”). Often, we don’t reach the K-R last stage, acceptance, partly due to a lack of trust that the system will faithfully examine the circumstances leading to such a horrible outcome (here exacerbated by the family’s homeland political history).
As my nom de blog suggests, I am a surgeon, and I view many of the cases and events described on this site through that prism. Here too as well. In surgery, we have Morbidity and Mortality (M&M) conferences. As the late and great Charles Bosk pointed out in his classic study of M&M, “Forgive and Remember: Managing Medical Failure,” there is a great tradition of fully and honestly reviewing one’s mistakes to the point that it’s an honor to confess them. There is no blue wall of silence. And then we have the malpractice system, where there is no immunity, qualified or otherwise.
Given the anger and denial, there will be crying. But unless and until we have a system for investigating police-related tragedies that everybody can trust, we won’t have ultimate acceptance either.
(PS: Who is to blame for the absence of this system is a whole other matter.)
I can understand a question arising from whether Nyah was subdued and the gun was out of his hand before the shot was fired, but as usual, the video is unclear and the scene was chaotic, so it’s hard to tell what the situation was and hard to level blame.
Looked pretty damn clear to me. Point a gun, get shot clear as day