Sword Falling and Other Fun Lawyer Tricks

Q: Isn’t it true that you’re a lying liar who lied to your client, you liar?
A: Uh, no.

And so I envision Skelly’s cross-examination, when  subpoenaed to testify before a federal court on a habeas brought by a former client.  Skelly was unhappy about being called as a witness, and really hated receiving a subpoena.  But over time and enough clients, it’s bound to happen. 


A week from now, I’ll be on the witness stand answering questions about what I recall discussing or not discussing with a client of mine 5 1/2 years ago, prior to his entry of a guilty plea, and prior to his being maxed out by a judge known as Hang ‘Em Higher.

And so, with extreme trepidation, Skelly prepared himself for the inevitable.  Clearly, he wanted to get on and off the stand without saying anything to hurt his former client, but he was deeply concerned.

After the testimony was over, Skelly exhaled and let us know how it went.


My former client’s federal petition claimed that back in 2002, prior to his guilty plea, I told him that he did have a particular plea bargain, and that I lied when I told the trial judge that he did not. I testified that I did not tell him that he had a plea bargain. I testified that once he and I rejected the state’s first offer, there was no other plea bargain.

Note the accusation that he “lied”.  This would naturally put Skelly’s back to the wall, making it a Skelly versus defendant proposition.  It’s a tactical fiasco, but that’s why the defendant is in prison and desperate, while Skelly is a lawyer able to blawg about his experience.


Waiting and pacing most of the day before testifying, from the fifth floor I had a great view of my old church and the parochial school where I’d gone to CCD. [Ed. note: I’m not sure what this means either] I already was in a penitent frame of mind. However, I wasn’t willing to take counsel’s invitation to confess to something I hadn’t done.

Was counsel surprised that Skelly would confess to lying?  This presents a curious issue.  If the defendant was represented by counsel, why did counsel not communicate with Skelly, investigate what Skelly would say in advance and frame his questions so that Skelly could do as much as possible to help the defendant, rather than put Skelly into an untenable position.  Did the lawyer think that his forceful manner of interrogation would cause Skelly to breakdown on the stand, in a paroxysm of quivering and weeping convulsions, to admit his lying liar ways?

For those who have never had the pleasure of sitting in the chair next to a federal judge, it’s an experience.


What a curious experience, the hours of waiting simultaneously boring and stressful, then suddenly the courtroom door opens. It starts with swearing-in . . . your lawyer brain tries clearly and accurately to explain the who, what, when, why, and how, while it contains the growing urge of your reptile brain to swear at your cross-examiner. It was quite an education to be on the other end of such a cross examination, answering to the best of my recollection, summoning memories, keeping emotions at bay. I did not want to be there today.

Ultimately, Skelly vindicated himself well, telling the truth and doing his utmost not to harm his former client despite the peculiar approach of his current counsel.  It’s the best that one could do under the circumstances.  Still, he didn’t have any fun on the witness stand, and would likely prefer not to be there ever again.


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5 thoughts on “Sword Falling and Other Fun Lawyer Tricks

  1. Anne Reed

    You helped me with Callipygian, so it’s the least I can do to help you with CCD. It’s Catholic religious education for kids. I had to look up what it stands for, though: Confraternity of Christian Doctrine.

    Between the two of us, we have a pretty complete vocabulary.

  2. Andrew G

    CCD = Confraternity of Christian Doctrine. Skelly is presumably Catholic and these were his religious education classes.

  3. Skelly

    Thank you, but it wasn’t quite that bad, really. The questions were more along the lines of, “isn’t it _possible_ that you’re a lying liar who lied to your client?”

    My old client’s new lawyer had talked to me in advance, and had a transcript of my interview with the state’s attorney. Perhaps the lawyer was constrained by the client’s initial framing of the issue, that and by an argumentative style of cross that just got my back up.

    IAC = Ineffective Assistance of Counsel. CCD = Confraternity of Christian Doctrine.

    That’s catechism for short, offered at St. Joe’s in Boise for public school kids like me. Growing up Catholic explains a lot about my eventual choice of a public defender vocation. Spending numberless Sundays saying this –

    “I confess to almighty God, and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have sinned through my own fault, in my thoughts and in my words, in what I have done, and in what I have failed to do”

    (which rather neatly covers all your bases, confession-wise)

    – explains a lot about why if I ever become your criminal defense client, you might not want to put me on the stand.

    Thanks for the gracious words, Scott. And for the links. – “Skelly”

  4. SHG

    Sure, suck all the drama out.  I don’t know what catechism class did for you, but it sure didn’t have enough of an impact on a bunch of cops I’ved crossed, all named O’Reilly.  Thanks for the update, and letting us know you survived.

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