That’s right, the list has been updated. Are you on it? If not, then why are you wasting your life?
Not sure what the list is?
Wild Men. Wild Women. They love Value. And Quality. And Stepping Up. Wild Men and Women are people who listen only to the little voice in their head. They get things done. They build things. They don’t care what you think. Uncertainty and turbulence–in the economy, stock markets, governments, the weather, you name it–only get their juices flowing.
You don’t have to know about the list to make it. You just have do whatever you have to do, and if there’s something to prove you existed by the end of the day, you may be on the list.
So who’s on the list?
1. Ben Franklin
2. Ted Turner
3. Dr. Johnson
4. Dr. Thompson
5. Theodore Roosevelt (yes, he was wild)
6. Andrew Jackson
7. Ayn Rand
8. Ana Marie Cox
9. Boudica
10. Dustin Hoffman
11. Winston Churchill
12. Benjamin Disraeli
13. Arianna Huffington
14. Bucky Fuller
15. Jerry Lee Lewis
This is Ted. He’s never cared what you think.16. Bill Buckley
17. Bill Clinton
18. Steve Jobs
19. Captain Harry (Charleston SC fishing/hunting guide)
20. Welsh and Irish guys when they’re sober
21. Nick Nolte
22. Ernie from Glen Burnie (DC lawyer, alias of WAC? childhood friend)
23. Christopher Columbus
24. Jann Wenner
25. Sean Penn
26. Ken Wilbur
27. Plato
28. Catherine the Great
29. Val Kilmer (way wilder than Jim Morrison)
30. Harry Dean Stanton
31. Scott Greenfield
32. Julius Caesar
33. Pete Seeger
34. John Lennon
35. Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr.
36. Peter Sheridan
37. Christopher Hitchens
38. Craig Young, Bush Pilot
39. Warren Beatty
40. The waitress at Kelly’s who poured beer on me. Twice.
41. John the Baptist
42. Rahm Emanuel
43. Robert Mitchum
44. Joan of Arc
45. Dylan Thomas
46. George Kaufman
46. “E”
47. Boswell (he was wild, too)
48. Ben Jonson
49. Mae West
50. Daniel Pinchbeck
51. Daniel O’Connell
53. Robert Johnson
54. Pima County, Arizona Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik.
55. St. John of Patmos
56. John Henry “Doc” Holliday
Check the list again. If your name isn’t there, ask yourself why. Better still, ask yourself at some point during your morning routine why you’re bothering if you have no intention of making yourself matter today. Just go back to bed.
And if you’re not on the list, then nobody cares who you think should (or shouldn’t) be on it. You don’t get a vote.
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Nice to see you on the same list as Plato. Who would of thought that would happen when you guys were in high school together.
We really didn’t hang out together. He was kinda emo.
I’m not on the list because I’m too short. It’s a heightest list.
No offense but it’s not like being on a ‘real’ list like ABA Blawg 100.
You make a good point. I will suggest that Dan not only look left and right when searching for appropriate candidates for The List, but up and down as well. As for your crushing win for best criminal blawg in the ABA Blawg 100, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Is there a list of mild men somewhere that I might be on?
…Actually, never mind, I’m probably on too many lists that I don’t know about, nor probably want to know about already.
Seriously, what are you thinking? Just lay low until the heat’s off.
You didn’t have to print the whole thing. It didn’t cost me anything to get it from WAC.
I would add that I don’t care what you and Hull think, but since I read your stuff every day, i’ll just say I’m too wild to care what you think about me.
You definitely have the right stuff for The List.
I’m all for people who are willing and determined to piss people off for a cause they believe in, but this list is about as diverse as a high school history book. Or a gathering of Fortune 500 CEOs. Or Congress. Or a big law firm.
But then, some people might listen only to a little voice inside their heads that says men are bigger bad asses. Who am I to judge?
None of your sexism here, missy. Women can be just as big bad asses as men. Sometimes bigger.
Hey Scott, we should go celebrate our awesomeness. I know just the place. It’s a small diner uptown. I’ve got my eye on a waitress there who looks to have a lot of electricity in her key, if you know what I’m saying.
I’m cool with you bringing friends, but please don’t invite Disraeli or Rand. They suck the happiness out of the room. Plus, Disraeli will insist upon telling the story of his last hookup with Queen Victoria. I’d rather clean Washington’s dentures than hear that story again.
Is Sheriff Dupnik on that list because he was blunt about his feelings regarding violent political rhetoric and extremism in the wake of the Tucson shooting?
If certain reports turn out to be true — that the Sheriff’s office failed to follow up on prior death threats by Loughner, and that this failure may have had something to do with Loguhner’s mother being a county official — some might begin to question the significance of his presence on the list. Can you get on the list just by being full of wind? Because if so, I might qualify.
Of course, that might be right-wing propaganda. Though Dupnik did concede that Loughner had made prior threats, and was close-mouthed about what was done about it.
The list is ongoing, AG.
On its face, it’s an update. So suggest someone. But wait a while before you do that. Reason: You seem to know very little about 95% the people on the list. Rather than blog–or comment to other blogs–why not spend a few years (yes, years) working, reading, traveling and talking to a few people. You have no business commenting on a even a light-hearted list of people who, for the most part, are a big part of the Western tradition. Become truly educated first maybe? Acquire first at least: (a) SOME cultural literacy, (a) a sense of irony and (c) a sense of humor.
Don’t sweat it. Few professionals have these qualities. But “CLE”–and lawyering and doctoring and accounting and engineering and managing in business and any other calling which has privileges and responsibilities–should be about the whole person. It’s an honor to do what we do. But we have to keep growing. And most of us, frankly, have reduced ourselves to complacent, semi-literate (at best) “techs”.
So maybe work on that stuff? And the qualities of completeness, cultural literacy, continuing growth and being “truly educated” mentioned above? My firm’s blog tries–our lawyers and writers are certainly not perfect (especially me)–to talk about them every day (on the blog and in the office). They are the qualities lawyers, other professionals and everyone lucky enough to have acquired a professional education ought to have. So they can truly lead.
And, hey, I may have to add CM to the list….:-)
Yeah right, you don’t want Disraeli to come but you’ll bring your lute. As if that makes your butt not look fat.
Nope. You will not the make list this way. Thank you for playing.
SHG,
Sometimes, actually, most of the time, when I read Hull’s writings, I get scared. Is this normal?
Yes. However, that doesn’t mean you are normal. The factors are entirely independent.
Chicks dig me. Don’t hate.
My response was actually a light-hearted comment about a light-hearted list. I just would have included a Frances Perkins or two. But I’ll take some polemical hyperbole any day, as long as it’s well-written.
Those aren’t chicks. You need better glasses.
I’ve always had a soft spot for Frances Perkins too. She had moxie.
You, too, Brian. Go learn something. Aspire. You can do better.
Actually, the heat was off at the last place we were living, laying low didn’t help with that for some reason.
Ok, but I have to wait until I finish cleaning my room and hanging up my clothes, per SHG.
First, that was a long night at the club, and you were supposed to be my wingman. Instead, you were busy getting served on the dance floor.
Second, I now know they were not chicks. That was made painfully obvious once I got to third base.
Third, don’t talk about glasses. Remember, I invented bifocals.
Duh.
And brush your teeth. Well.
That’s a start. Read Cicero. And always floss.
Ok, but Scott said I could go out tonight and use the car. I know I have to be in by 9:30. Thanks
I’m a woman of very few words, but lots of action.
The score never interested me, only the game.
When I did a Ctrl+F for “Bukowski,” and saw nothing, I knew the list would be cliche.
Anyone who took Western Civ. and Literature 101 would have come up with that same list.
There are no niche characters. The list doesn’t evidence someone who has actually read or thought deeply.
Instead, it shows a guy trying hard to show how cultured he is by dropping the same names any other schmuck with a B.A. would have drummed up.
He needs to follow his own advice to read widely. Reading the same shit every college professor in the country assigns doesn’t count.
Fire-breathing Mike:
We work for a living so the list was never intended to be exhaustive or perfect. We can add Bukowski–good point–and I doubt you know the least bit about him. Or about half the people on the list. I started reading him in 1977. Started with his poetry. You?
In public, Charles (he did not go by Henry) used his real name, too. Real man. You?
Glad you finished college and all. You should get a job or life where you can afford to use your real name.
Your own logic implodes. First you say, “Rather than blog–or comment to other blogs–why not spend a few years (yes, years) working, reading, traveling and talking to a few people.” This implies you have done the work.
When I reveal your list is cliched and ignorant, you say: “We work for a living.” This implies you don’t have time to read.
Well, which is it?
I take it that, in real life, you are not used to be challenged. Only the weak surround themselves with yes-men.
Your list also acts as if there is no Eastern world. Here is how Miyamoto Musashi’s, “Book of Five Rings” begins:
“I have spent my entire life studying and refining the art of strategy. I killed first when I was just thirteen, and I have won in over sixty duels, never once losing in my entire life.”
He had to stop fighting with real swords, because no one could compete. He used a wooden sword instead. Then he went to a cave to meditate and write.
Not wild enough for ya? Or perhaps you should read more. Or start hanging out with guys who push back rather than kow-tow.
You can’t be truly wild if you’re ashamed–on every level–of who you are. Maybe get out of public defending or whatever. Leave Elkhart or upstate NY maybe? Start over?
Look, you are obviously young–maybe even 25 years younger than me. You’re a very quick reactor–and very very thin-skinned young man who hates himself and his life. Everything, I take it, must be personal with you. All bothers you. You can barely move around. The list was mainly for fun. Not serious in a way that justifies anyone going into a nitpicking red-faced rage. You didn’t get it even a little bit.
You just can’t compete out there, can you? People like me have been upsetting you your whole life. Well, if I were you, I would not like me either. Me–or the scads of non-haters/non-hiders out there are always going to be happy. You are always going to be pissed off by that.
Rather than upset me, you’ve humiliated yourself – though you’re likely too delusional or ignorant to “get” how.
It’s OK. You’ve obviously arranged your personal life with one concern – the protection of our self-esteem.
You’re not used to anyone pushing back or challenging you. When someone does, you fume.
Instead, you should be taking notes.
Take care.
“Nemojte hraniti trolove.” -Josip Broz Tito (who should have made your list).
Sadly, the only point of Mike’s initial comment is to be disagreeable, as it’s all in fun and any asshole could pick it apart. Since I know and like Mike, and know that he doesn’t want to be just any asshole, it would have been better had he not found the list amusing to just move along rather than find it sufficiently important to note his disagreement.
More importantly, Mike missed the point of the list. It’s a list of people who do something (which Mike ought to appreciate). Does he really think a list of 56 people was going to not only be comprehensive, but cover the spectrum of likes and dislikes of the bizarre folks on the internet? Nah, I don’t think he does. Have fun Mike, and don’t pick pointless fights. Especially not in my house, since that’s my job.
No problem. Apologize for all my shortcomings and happiness. But, Scott, do you really know anyone living a large but bitter life in the attic of Flint Public Library?
Sure, it was a game of, “Who can be the bigger asshole?” It started off with Hull playing, “Can I be a bully,” by blasting A.G.
I am often an asshole, but never a bully.
P.S. Hull, the reason the bull fight is funny is because enough guys know who I am to recognize that you’re the one running at the cape.
But that’s not fair. He doesn’t know that you’re Mike Cernovich, and you could be 10,000 other Mike’s playing asshole on the internet. As for AG, she can handle herself, and Hull was just playing with her, and she played back. It was fine. But don’t blame Hull’s reply for your initial comment. Sequence is everything.
Come on, stop trying to see who can out-dick each other. Or at least take it outside. You’re making my comments on a fun post unpleasant, and that’s pissing me off. Be miserable at your own blog and let me enjoy the evening snow in peace.
Fair enough.
My apologies.
I knew it was Cernovich, anyone who doesn’t hasn’t read C&F