Tuesday Talk*: Touched By Tucker

There’s a really good reason why I never mention Tucker Carlson. He can’t sing. He can’t dance. He can’t tell a joke or throw a ball with great velocity. Yet, there he is on Fox News entertaining the masses by providing the right wing version of a whiny traumatized scold for the downtrodden . . . maskless.

Do you wear a mask? I do, both because it’s just not enough of a problem that I choose not to wear a mask and I appreciate the concerns of others about some random maskless person. I’m now fully vaccinated, and I’ve never had COVID, and I generally don’t feel any particular problem with walking around outdoors without a mask. And yet, this is not a battle I care to fight.

Yet, Tucker Carlson not only sees this as a hill to die on, but a hill to kill others on. Those others include the children.

Harass children? Call the cops on the kids for child abuse because they’re wearing a mask? It’s one thing to make a personal choice to not wear a mask, even if the terminally clueless confuse their choice with some duty of stores to permit them entry, ending up on a viral video of them behaving like a flaming nutjob. But children?

Before the apologists show up to argue that if the scolds of the left get to demand we not use words that offend them, we get to “fight fire with fire,” not even this fallacious argument suffices. This isn’t about you making your own choice to be just as big an asshole as the other tribe, but about your taking out your butthurt on kids.

To the extent conservatives have a legitimate claim that their views are not being taken seriously and reflected in the path society is taking during the pandemic, do their personal choices, whether to go maskless or to refuse to be vaccinated, confer some right to yell at other people’s children about how they should behave? If you don’t like the fact that teachers are “reimagining” their math curriculum to include antiracist calculations, is it any better, any more justifiable, for Carlson to call for adults to make other people’s children adopt their views? Is it now acceptable for grownups to yell at kids, or even more bizarrely, to tie up the phones at child protective services that a ten-year-old is playing outside alone wearing a mask?

Maybe Tucker Carlson can tell a joke, but he’s so wry that nobody realizes it?

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37 thoughts on “Tuesday Talk*: Touched By Tucker

  1. JRP

    I know you mentioned it, but Tuesday talk so.. I think alot of this comes from people who want revenge/parity for the way they are being treated. Being scolded? Scold back? Being harassed because you serve in an admin? Harass back when the shoe is on the other foot?

    There is some logic to mutually assured destruction, but the problem is the end result is never compromise or rational problem solving. You either eventually fight or one side capitulates.

    1. SHG Post author

      Maybe, just maybe, at some point somebody can be the adult and say, I’m going to be better than the other guys. It could happen.

      1. Hunting Guy

        Sorry, no.

        You take that tactic and you get Alinskyed.

        Look at the 2nd Amendment supporters or conservatives in general and how they got screwed by being nice.

  2. Jake

    Tucker’s strategy of demanding the stupidest among his viewers flirt with death by drowning in an infected stew of pus and mucus is breathtaking to behold.

  3. phv3773

    When Tucker Carlson first appeared on the scene, I thought he might be the next George Wiil. Instead, he has turned into Hannity’s ugly stepchild.

    The secret to being Fox News is to gauge the mood of the audience, and then appear a bit more outrageous. You gotta keep a bit of buzz going, don’t ya know.

  4. PseudonymousKid

    Does ole Tucker actually appeal to anyone? Why is he still on the air? He’s a caricature at this point, but of what, I’m not sure. He has writers employed to dream up the shit he says and publishes. How do I get one of those sweet jobs pumping out complete drivel? I too can mine the dark corners of the internet for nonsense, put some polish on it, and then sell it to whomever actually tunes in to this shit in the well-worn style of Tucker’s forebears. Except that people seem to take this joke of a human seriously for some reason, it would be fun.

    At least others right wing nuts have personality. Poor Tucker has to live with being Tucker. I couldn’t fit pastiche or simulacrum in my first run through and have to go now. Pretend they are somewhere above. Tucker doesn’t deserve anymore attention.

  5. Curtis

    I think wearing masks outside is stupid. I know that vaccinated people wearing masks outside is incredibly stupid. However, I think politeness is necessary for society and I give mask wearers plenty of distance and avoid crowds.

    The idea of turning children into pawns for a political fight turns my stomach. I calmly accept all the idiotic rules that allow my children to play sports. I seethe at the thought of my son and my parents not be allowed to go to my daughter’s graduation but I will smile and cheer for the class of 2021. They need all the support they can get. I will never forgive the adults who deprived children of so much of their youth but the kids come first.

  6. Dan J

    While it is scientifically accurate to say a face mask outside is not needed, and that children are about as low-risk as you can get, it amazingly stupid and petty to be harassing kids about it.

    As someone who got covid despite a mask and distancing etc, I think people put far too much faith in them, but I also don’t care what other people do or don’t do. I can’t imagine caring enough to go make an ass of myself on national news.

  7. ExpatNJ

    Can anyone compare the possible [legal] outcomes of someone taking Tucker’s suggested actions, with those of the lady (in NYC?) who called police because she was “in fear” from seeing a Black man in close proximity?

    PS. I don’t find myself too keen on Tucker’s idea, myself …

      1. Jake

        Is it TT or this week’s topic? Once Fox’s lawyers argued in Federal court, and a judge ruled the same, that no reasonable person would believe the nonsense they publish, I figured we could all just move on from paying them any more attention.

        1. SHG Post author

          Because it’s TT, I posted your comment and remind people that what you lack in legal understanding you make up for in clog dancing skills.

  8. Art Leider

    Tucker Carlson is an actor who makes hyperbolic statements to generate outrage, both from the media and from politicians.
    When Fox News’ ratings began to suffer after Trump lost, it has been reported that Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch decided that, the way to keep the Fox News audience was to ramp up the hyperbole and disinformation.
    Responding to Carlson, Hannity and Ingraham with outrage is exactly what the Murdoch’s hope to accomplish.

      1. Art Leider

        My source for “it has been reported”. Sorry I didn’t include it earlier.

        AT FOX, RUPERT MURDOCH IS REPORTEDLY STEPPING IN TO RIGHT THE SHIP
        As the network’s ratings fall behind those of CNN, the nearly 90-year-old Fox cofounder is apparently taking a special interest in programming changes designed to get Fox back on top. Will it be enough?

        Vanity Fair
        FEBRUARY 3, 2021

        1. Rengit

          Your original post is a quite bit of extrapolation from your more recent posting of your source, one which, for what it’s worth, is already very hostile to Fox News.

  9. Bob G

    The bit about calling CPS was just hyperbole, a rhetorical device that’s been around for millennia and is understood even by Fox-News-watching troglodytes.

    You’re calling him a scold? Physician, heal thyself.

  10. albeed

    I used to try to comment here but I stopped because I was of the wrong tribe. However, since this is TT time, I have to comment. I know it will be discarded but that’s OK. Remember April, 3, 2020 (Dunning Kushner Syndrome). I do:

    “According to Sherman, when New York’s governor, Andrew Cuomo, said that the state would need 30,000 ventilators at the apex of the coronavirus outbreak, Kushner decided that Cuomo was being alarmist. “I have all this data about I.C.U. capacity,” Kushner reportedly said. “I’m doing my own projections, and I’ve gotten a lot smarter about this. New York doesn’t need all the ventilators.” (Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top expert on infectious diseases, has said he trusts Cuomo’s estimate.)

    In what great nation does a kid of no particular competence get to be in charge of life or death?

    Kushner has succeeded at exactly three things in his life. He was born to the right parents, married well and learned how to influence his father-in-law. Most of his other endeavors — his biggest real estate deal, his foray into newspaper ownership, his attempt to broker a peace deal between the Israelis and the Palestinians — have been failures.”

    Perhaps Tucker know what he says! You don’t even paraphrase it accurately.

      1. albeed

        You are correct. I’ll start taking my science from the NYT (which I have home delivered in the Midwest) and CNN, they’ve won lots of Nobel Prizes

        1. David

          I suspect that somewhere deep within you, you believe that you’ve actually said something here. As someone who is outside of you, let me tell you that I have no fucking clue what you’re talking about and can’t even tell what side you’re arguing for. Your comments make absolutely no sense, even if you think otherwise.

          Do you not grasp that other people don’t share whatever demons voices you hear in the privacy of your hole?

          1. SHG Post author

            A common problem with existing in one’s own echo chamber is that people who share the same ideological assumptions understand points that elude outsiders. A few ideologically-blind readers here stopped commenting because they were so blind to their ideological assumptions that they couldn’t grasp why others (notably me) didn’t appreciate their brilliance.

            As it happens, I know which tribe Albeed belongs to, but from his comments here, one would be hard-pressed to figure it out. He won’t understand why.

            1. albeed

              II won’t give it up until you and your “fact checkers” answer this question honestly. Did you see the full original 15 minute segment which I found with difficulty due to “Tech Censorship” on the internet or only the severely edited 2 minute version on Twitter?

            2. SHG Post author

              Not that I give a damn what you will or won’t give up, but the “full original 15 minute segment” of what? What the hell are you talking about?

              If this is just the incoherent ravings of a random lunatic, that’s fine, but you’re going to have to waste someone else’s bandwidth for your fix. Either say something remotely coherent or you’re done. Last chance. You are most assuredly not worth this much time or effort.

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