Not The Meat But The Motion (Update)

In  a comment to this post on the hot, sexy issue of copyright, Mark Draughn, better known as the Windypundit, related the issue to a massive screw up by the Department of Homeland Security.  Which one, you ask?  Isn’t sad that the words “massive screwup” aren’t sufficient to describe it?  Anyway, this one :

What if you woke up one morning and your blog’s URL pointed to a Department of Homeland Security page that said, “Website seized for trafficking in child pornography”? That’s what happened to 84,000 innocent site owners this week, and there’s no guarantee it won’t happen again.

It appears that our computer savvy protectors at ICE seized a primary domain without realizing that it had tens of thousand of legitimate subdomains, and perhaps a few that were less than legitimate.  Windy commented:


As it happens there’s was an apparent example of what can go wrong with this kind of process just the other day. According to Radley Balko, the DHS got a court order to seize the domain names of 10 sites that allegedly had child pornography on them. Apparently, the order accidentally removed an entire 2nd tier domain (kind of like removing blogspot.com instead of someblogname.blogspot.com), and over 80,000 websites were diverted to a DHS message claiming the site had been shut down for hosting child pornography.

You don’t have to hate copyright to think that DMCA and related laws are slanted too far in favor of copyright holders (especially well-established content producers) to the detriment of technology companies, small content producers, and consumers. It may be that reproducing the paper-books-and-vinyl-records content licensing system in the virtual world is not the best policy.

This raises a critical distinction that’s too often missed, or misunderstood.  Don’t confuse bad execution with bad law. 

One of the foundational wrongs often discussed in the blawgosphere is the conviction of innocent people for a heinous crime, like murder or rape.  There’s no question that it happens.  Does this mean our laws prohibiting murder or rape are wrong or bad?  Of course not.  These are terrible crimes, and they should be.

The problem is the manner in which the investigation and prosecution of these individuals occurs, with a thousand moving parts any of which can go wrong and produce very bad results. 

In a more controversial example, what of search warrants based on stale information or executed at the wrong location?  Is the solution to do away with search warrants, or to perform the function of review or execution far better?  Some might hate the idea of a warrant, an ex parte application to search and seize, but most of us realize that it’s a necessary method of obtaining evidence of a crime.  Without search warrants, and assuming warrantless searches never occurred, concealment of crime would be a snap, and seizure of evidence or contraband would be rendered impossible.

Are we seeking a society where, in the elevation of rights over reason, crime could be committed without recourse?  Few of us really want to be the victim of crime, and as much as we carefully guard our rights, we aren’t so blind or simplistic as to think that crime isn’t a bad thing. 

Windy’s comment reflects the conflation of the two independent issues.  There is no law, no process, that can’t be screwed up and result in harm, even massive harm, if handled carelessly or malevolently.  The point of warrants is to have a neutral magistrate pass on its propriety before allowing the government to have its way with us.  Before the question is put to the magistrate, the government is expected to exercise a bit of care and caution so as to be reasonably correct before pointing guns at people’s heads.

In Windy’s example, a few unfortunately typical problems appear to have arisen simultaneously, producing outrageous results, with 84,000 “innocent” subdomains being seized and rerouted to a DHS webpage that informed the viewer, “Website seized for trafficking in child pornography.”  There’s nothing like grandma’s recipe blog beings smeared as a kiddie porn trafficker.  Try shaking off that image quickly.

The government has never shown finesse at dealing with technology, and the courts even less so.  The heavy hand of law enforcement, which will attest whenever possible to its omniscience in all things under the sun, could make the effort to use a scalpel rather than a bludgeon.  Yet it fails to do so with remarkable frequency, and rarely shows much concern for its failings or interest in doing it better.  But this isn’t limited to a domain seizure, but all things tech. 

Similarly, judges who sign off on warrants need to be sufficiently aware of the weapon they’re handing over to the government, as part of their oversight function in assuring that the warrants are sufficiently specific to cover no more than what’s required.  While it’s easy to blame the government for the 84,000 victims of its ignorance, let’s not forget that a judge gave his seal of approval, perhaps by rubber stamp.  This isn’t good enough, and whoever signed the warrant failed to fulfill his function.

But the  Techland post describing this fiasco argues;


So far so good, since it’s perfectly legitimate for ICE to target the bad guys. But critics of the seizures point to a seeming lack of due process. The feds determine a site to be infringing and ask a judge to sign a seizure warrant that tells the site’s domain name company to transfer control of the domain name to the government, which then points it to a “seized by DHS” page. The problem is the warrants are issued ex parte, which means that the targeted website owners are not notified and don’t have an opportunity to present their side of the story to the judge.

Ironically, the “critics” referred to in the paragraph is David Post at Volokh, and his criticism is bizarre, arguing that it was “outrageous” that the warrants were issued ex parte.  All warrants, other than for the seizure of real property, are issued ex parte, and warrants would serve no purpose if they weren’t.  If the execution had been handled competently, and the only affected websites were in fact showing or selling videos of actual child pornography, should they have been left in operation while the issue was challenged?

Certainly, after the execution of the warrant, there must be due process provided for the owners of the websites to challenge the government’s action, regardless of whether the government handled the matter perfectly or horribly, as here.  But we don’t let the wrong continue unabated, in this case children compelled to engage in sex acts with adults, while lawyers fight it out in court.  The first move is to stop the bleeding.  The problem is to stop only the bleeding.

Regardless of how one feels on these issues, and the right and wrong of underlying laws is invariably based on a weighing of priorities and harm, where we may hold different but legitimate opinions, the fact that the government performs its duties poorly, incompetently, stupidly, is a flaw of the government’s execution, not the law.  There’s plenty of blame to be placed, but let’s make sure we place it where it belongs.

Update:  At the time that Windy posted his comment, Radley Balko had not (that I can tell) posted anything about this case.  He has now. 

There Should Be A Name for This One, Too:


Over at the New York Times, yesterday, Scott Turow and James Shapiro, both of the Authors’ Guild, penned a short piece in defense of stronger copyright law under the title “Would the Bard have Survived the Web?”



“Copyright, . . . linking authors, the printing press (and later technologies) and the market, would prove to be one of history’s great public policy successes. Books would attract investment of authors’ labor and publishers’ capital on a colossal scale, and our libraries and bookstores would fill with works that educated and entertained a thriving nation. Our poets, playwrights, novelists, historians, biographers and musicians were all underwritten by copyright’s markets.. . .


Yet today, these markets are unraveling. Piracy is a lucrative, innovative, global enterprise. . . . The rise of the Internet has led to a view among many users and Web companies that copyright is a relic, suited only to the needs of out-of-step corporate behemoths. Just consider the dedicated “file-sharers” — actually, traffickers in stolen music movies and, increasingly, books — who transmit and receive copyrighted material without the slightest guilt.


They are abetted by a handful of law professors and other experts who have made careers of fashioning counterintuitive arguments holding that copyright impedes creativity and progress. Their theory is that if we severely weaken copyright protections, innovation will truly flourish. It’s a seductive thought, but it ignores centuries of scientific and technological progress based on the principle that a creative person should have some assurance of being rewarded for his innovative work. . . .”


To begin with, how odd is it that they’d invoke Shakespeare in this context? “We need stronger copyright or else we won’t get the next Shakespeare” is like arguing “We need the designated hitter, or how will we ever get the next Babe Ruth?” In a copyright-free world — not that I’m advocating such a thing, but hey, you brought it up — we’ll get the next Shakespeare the way we got the last Shakespeare, in a copyright-free world. The first copyright statute, the Statute of Anne, wasn’t passed until 1709, long after Shakespeare was a-moulderin’ in the grave. [That’s what we need a name for — this kind of absurdly misplaced historical argument]


I won’t go on about the larger, more substantive issues they raise, only because I’ve written about it a zillion times in the past. As Barack Obama reportedly said, at the very end of the last conversation he had with Hosni Mubarak before the latter resigned: ’”I respect my elders. And you have been in politics for a very long time, Mr. President. But there are moments in history when just cause things were the same way in the past doesn’t mean they will be that way in the future.”


But one point they make deserves a more extended reply. Turow and Shapiro voice their support for the bill that was recently introduced in the Senate — the “Combatting Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act” — which would, in their words “target Web sites dedicated to stealing American intellectual property.” COICA, as the bill is known, is a monstrosity, another example of the copyright industries’ attempts to bend the Internet to their private gain. I blogged about it here, and authored a “Law Professors’ Letter in Opposition” posted here — and penned this op-ed piece this past weekend (which the Times chose not to publish):


How Not to Combat Online Infringement
Scott H. Greenfield

On February 16, the Senate Judiciary Committee will hold hearings on S.3804, the “Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act” (COICA). The bill authorizes the federal courts to issue injunctions against Internet sites that are “dedicated to infringing activities” — i.e., sites “primarily designed,” or with “no demonstrable commercially significant purpose or use other than,” to offer goods or services in violation of the federal copyright or trademark laws, based upon nothing more than an application by the Attorney General and an assertion that the sites in question are operating unlawfully. The injunctions would not actually be directed at the websites themselves (many of which may be located overseas beyond the jurisdiction of US courts), however, but at their domain names; they would require removal of a site’s domain name from the Internet’s central domain name registry databases, and from the “routing tables” used by Internet Service Providers to process Internet messages and route them to their appropriate destination.
If enacted into law, COICA would fundamentally alter U.S. policy towards Internet speech, and not for the better. Along with 50 other law professors, I signed a letter (available at tinyurl.com/COICALetter) urging the Senate to reject the bill, because of its dangerous consequences for free expression online, for the integrity of the Internet’s domain name system, and for the United States’ ability to support Internet freedom abroad.
To begin with, COICA authorizes the suppression of Internet speech without any meaningful opportunity for any party to contest the allegations of unlawful content. By styling these as actions to “seize” domain names (as opposed to actions against the individual(s) performing the allegedly illegal acts), the bill avoids the inconvenience of providing the affected party an opportunity to defend his actions or to receive a final judicial determination, after a full adversary proceeding, that the website in question contains infringing material. Relying solely on prosecutorial allegations of a violation of US law, Internet websites around the world would go “dark” — their content unavailable to Internet users anywhere because their domain names will no longer “resolve” properly in the central databases.
Not only does this violate the offending parties’ rights to fundamental due process and free speech — adequate notice and an opportunity to be heard before a neutral judge in an adversary proceeding before content is removed from circulation — it will inevitably suppress large amounts of entirely lawful speech, “burning down the house to roast the pig,” as the Supreme Court once put it. Recent “seizures” of domain names hosting allegedly infringing content by agents of the Department of Homeland Security, operating under the civil and criminal forfeiture provisions of federal law, illustrate the difficulties. Among the websites whose domain name was “seized” in a recent sweep was Rojadirecta.org, a Spanish site offering links to videos of sporting events available on the Internet; unbeknownst (presumably) to the federal agents or the judge issuing the seizure order, court proceedings over the course of several years in Spain had found that Rojadirecta.org was not infringing anyone’s copyright through its listings of available content.
By enlisting private ISPs to block Internet sites solely on the basis of their content, COICA would also represent a dramatic retreat from the US’s long-standing policy of allowing ISPs to focus on empowering communications by and among users, free from the need to monitor, supervise, or play any gatekeeping or policing role with respect to those communications. It is a policy that has not only helped make the United States the world leader in a wide range of Internet-related industries, but it has also enabled the Internet’s uniquely decentralized structure to serve as a global platform for innovation, speech, collaboration, civic engagement, and economic growth.
And perhaps most troubling of all, COICA would compromise the United States’ ability to continue to serve as a bulwark against censorship and other threats to freedom of expression, freedom of thought, and the free exchange of information and ideas on the Internet. At a time when dozens of foreign governments have dramatically stepped up their efforts to censor Internet communications in order to suppress legitimate dissent, to marginalize religious minorities, and to prevent citizens from obtaining information about the world outside their borders — efforts which, in light of the recent events in Egypt and Tunisia, are likely to intensify — the United States has always been a voice, and often the only voice, opposing these efforts. Our ability to defend the principle of the single global Internet — the Internet where all of humanity has equal access to knowledge and ideas, the Internet that looks the same to, and allows free and unfettered communication between, users located in Shanghai and Seattle and Santiago, free of locally-imposed censorship regimes — will be deeply compromised by enactment of S. 3804, which would enshrine in U.S. law for the first time the contrary principle: that all countries have a right to insist on the removal of content, wherever located, from the global Internet in service of the exigencies of local law. Nothing limits the application of this principle to copyright or trademark infringement, and nothing limits the application of this principle to actions by the United States; when all countries exercise this prerogative in support of their local legal regimes, as they surely will, we will have lost — or, more properly speaking, we will have destroyed — the single global inter-connected communications platform that we have built over the past several decades and that holds out so much promise for the improvement of human society across the globe.

Imagine how much easier it would be, and how much smarter I would appear, if I just stole David Post’s posts off the Volokh Conspiracy , and put my name to them.  After all, copyright is an anachronism and information wants to be free.  As long as it’s free, why shouldn’t I take it and use it as my own? 

The only thing that would make it better would be if David would write posts with which I agreed. 

Racist, Sexist, Whinist

So the Dean of your law school gets murdered. Regularly. As part of an example by your criminal law professor.  Who’s a white male. And the Dean is a black female. And this makes you feel bad. Discuss.

From DelawareOnline , this is no caselaw example, but what happened at Widener Law School:

During a spring 2010 criminal law class, Lawrence Connell shot and killed Linda Ammons — hypothetically speaking.

Connell considered the pretend notion of his murdering the Widener School of Law dean an absurd example meant to help students remember a legal principle.

But at least two students filed complaints with administrators, calling it violent, racist and sexist, according to Connell’s attorney, Thomas Neuberger.

Now, the controversial classroom imagery has left the associate professor fighting to keep his job of 26 years and alleging Widener violated his right to academic freedom.

For any reader who didn’t enjoy the pleasure of law school tuition bills, Orin Kerr, a lawprof himself, explains the norm:

One of the common ways that law professors keep students mildly entertained in class is by posing hypotheticals involving their professors and the Dean. I ‘m not sure why this is so funny, but students just love it. If you teach first-year criminal law, which typically focuses heavily on homicide crimes, that means you spend a lot of time imagining your colleagues meeting horrible fates. If A kills B out of revenge, that’s just a boring hypothetical. But if the hypo involves the students’ Torts Professor killing the Dean out of revenge — or better yet, a conspiracy in which the Dean and the students’ Torts and Contract Professors agree to kill their Criminal law Professor for beer money — well, that’s serious entertainment. It may seem a bit morbid at first. But it’s the opposite, I think. Putting Professors or the Dean in the place of real criminals and real victims makes the scenario so absurd that it adds a bit of levity to what is otherwise a very depressing topic. As a result, it’s a common tool Criminal Law professors use when teaching first-year students the basic doctrines of criminal law. I suppose over the years I’ve murdered pretty much every 1st-year teacher — and certainly all my Deans — and they’ve all murdered me, too. (All during in-class hypos, mind you.)

It’s all in good fun, and intended to keep students engaged and interested.  For anyone inclined to wretch when they hear the word “blackacre,” you understand.

But law students, apparently, have both become more “sensitive” and simultaneously more assertive in complaining when something offends their delicate sensibilities.  Two students were sufficiently offended by Connell’s hypotheticals that they went to the Dean and complained.

In the description of the complaints provided to Connell, the unnamed students accuse him of using Ammons, a black woman, as the shooting victim in his class examples “at least 10 times,” Neuberger said. In one instance, a student alleged Connell used a hypothetical situation describing how he “blew her head off,” Neuberger said. His examples ranged from the gory to the intentionally absurd, according to Neuberger, such as when Connell asked students to imagine Ammons dealing drugs out of her office.

As  Orin later notes in reaction to the fact that it was two, rather than a lone, student who complained:

In my experience, law students rarely complain individually: They usually complain together, generally as a large-ish group. So if something was off, you’d expect a good-size group — maybe 5 or 10. Only two students complaining struck me as a bit suspicious.

And as for 10 instances of using the Dean in his examples,  Orin states that he kills off a few hundred people during the course of a semester, making the 10 times he murders a dean less than overwhelming.

Oh, the minefield through which a politically well-intended yet engaging professor walks these days.  How hard it will be when these whining inchoate lawyers finally make their way into a criminal courtroom, and get their delicate teacup butts smacked hard by reality.

When I was a baby lawyer, my case was called in the courtroom of a well-respected judge even though my client had yet to appear.  The judge, who happened to be black, stared at me as I shuffled my feet, looked at him with a sheepish grin and explained that the defendant had yet to arrive and no, I didn’t know why.

Then he laughed out loud, informing me that he understood completely why my client, who had been previously admonished to be in the courtroom at 9:30 in the morning unless he was dead, had failed to appear.

He’s on CP time.

Yes, that’s what the judge told me.  Not in a whisper.  Not at sidebar.  Not because we were close friends.  He said it loud and clear in an open courtroom on the record.  Do you know what that meant?

The judge wasn’t being racist.  He was dealing with some ugly reality in the trenches, and it saved my client from having a bench warrant issued and spending the rest of the case on Rikers Island.  He showed up later and was read the riot act, beaten into submission, told that his failure to be on time would result in being whipped within an inch of his life.  i don’t remember if he was on time for the next appearance, but I do remember thanking the judge for letting him go home that day and sleep in his own home with his wife and children.

That students are so hyper-vigilant and ever-ready to complain demonstrates their wonderful attention to detail, even when the details are so unclear that they’re compelled to extrapolate from their Dean’s gender and skin color that there’s racism and sexism afoot.

But if this so offends your sensibilities, so outrages you that you feel compelled to complain to your Dean, you are going to hate being a criminal defense lawyer.

Worse still is that the Widener Law School administration didn’t use this as a teachable moment for these two law students, and instead have taken Connell to task, despite his 26 years of teaching, the normalcy of using a murdered dean as an example and the basic tenet of academic freedom.  Instead, Widener chose to empower the whiners and encourage its students (and indirectly its lawprofs) to wallow in their childish sensitivity.

I understand how political correctness is used to change a culture to eliminate the vestiges of racism and sexism.  This isn’t an argument suggesting that either racism or sexism is a good thing, or even permissible.  But when your sensibilities are so delicate that you find one or the other, or both, under every rock, you’re going to have a very hard time functioning in a world where unpleasant things happen all the time, and no one wants to hear you whine about it.

And so there are two things to take from Lawrence Connell’s example: law students who are “uncomfortable” when examples don’t meet their personal approval need a good smack, and lawyers everywhere should be extremely cautious about hiring any kid out of Widener Law School.

He Swings; He Misses; There’s No Ball

I’ve long appreciated Jordon Furlong’s posts about the future of lawyers, seeing well down the road of technology and marketing.  It’s not that I think the picture is necessarily pretty, but nobody guaranteed that the future of the law would be rosey.

In a post at Stem Legal, Jordon’s day job, he implicitly states that blawging remains a mainstay for the future of law.  I’m down with that, since I don’t do Facebook or LinkedIn, and twitter is for those whose depth of thought is fully captured in 140 characters.  But, like most things, the devil is in the details, and this is where things get a bit shakey.  Jordon lays out the problem:

The principle is that the only reliable way for a law firm to build a lasting positive presence on the web is through the steady and timely production of relevant content: no amount of SEO gamesmanship will outperform good content that builds links with other websites. The theory is that law firms are filled with expert content producers who collectively can generate a tremendous amount of knowledge to fill the growing number of available vehicles (web pages, newsletters, blogs, Twitter, and so forth). The reality is that this is often more difficult to achieve than it sounds.

Jordon then looks for the cause:


It might be that such efforts are unbillable and therefore unattractive to busy lawyers under pressure to produce revenue. It might be that the firm has failed to sufficiently motivate and prioritize lawyer content production. Or it might simply be that lawyers want to practise law and leave the content to non-lawyer staff.


And thereafter, Jordon offers some cures:


Evangelize the benefits of content for increased prestige and prominence — if some lawyers aren’t yet sold on content’s virtues, show them how their competitors get attention and influence from content and encourage them to become “thought leaders” in their areas.

Doesn’t everybody want to be a “thought leader?”  This is where the pitch turns out to be screwball.  There remains a big strike zone for blawging problems, and yet Jordon’s pitches are low and outside.

As it’s already clear that there’s no empirical ROI to be had, legal marketers are forced to engage in Rube Goldberg-like machinations to justify their value, stringing wiggle words together, like “prestige and prominence.” to convey a warm, fuzzy and lucrative sense of worth.  But the hard gap can be found in the failure to recognize certain core problems with the pitch.

Blawging doesn’t bring in business.  Blawging doesn’t increase prestige and prominence.  Blawging doesn’t get attention or influence.  Blawging may do any or all of these things, but it doesn’t necessarily follow that if you blawg, anyone will care.  Take a gander at the thousands of abandoned blawgs, well-intended efforts, and some quite excellent, but just not worth the time or effort.  No amount of hyperbole will overcome the hard reality of empty, abandoned storefronts in the blawgosphere.

Much of the hype is in the form of silly, simplistic arguments offered by those who couldn’t cut it as lawyers so try to make a living as rainmaker coaches.  Smart lawyers laugh off these folks, seeing their tripe as another of the hundred pitches for law firm marketing bucks that come in daily.  We all get them, and that’s why computers have a delete button.

One of the nagging questions that lawyers ask is how it’s possible, given that there are a whole lot of lawyers out there, for all of them to spend their time creating content, producing an unreadable cacophany of lawyerly noise, to stand out sufficiently to make it worth their while.  Nobody wants to deal with this issue.  Obviously, if there are 10,000 blawgs floating in the ether, 9,900 aren’t going to be read.  Maybe more.  These are lousy odds.

Assuming one produces a blawg that gets some attention, how does that translate into being a “thought leader” as opposed to an embarrassment, a waste of time or the darling of readers who will never be capable of retaining your firm?  Again, no good answer.

For this reason, Jordon discusses the perpetual law firm rejoinder to blawging advocates:


From time to time, I’ve been asked (indirectly and otherwise) if in addition to advising law firms on blogging strategies and recommending an editorial direction, I would also be prepared to write the blog entries themselves. My response is always the same: I’m happy to review a draft post or brainstorm ideas, but the whole point of a blog post is that it’s personal and authentic. What is published under your name and your photo must come from you. Avoid “ghostblogging” in the law unless sincerity and trustworthiness aren’t important reputational assets to you.

While lawyers may be willing to give a blawg a go as a marketing tool, they aren’t willing to put their own time into the effort.  Maybe throwing a few bucks at some kid to write some slough on a blawg is worth the money, at least to see where it goes, but their time isn’t going to be wasted.  Jordon properly warns off ghostblogging, though his reasoning fails to capture the essence of the problem:  Put your reputation into the hands of some non-lawyer ghostblogger and you will find the quickest path to embarrassment and disgrace, maybe even some viral humiliation if it’s a slow day.


E-newsletters, sure: articles don’t even need bylines, and they can be professionally written with a lawyer’s input. Twitter feeds under the firm’s logo (but not under a lawyer’s name and photo) can and probably should be manned by professional communications staff; ditto a Facebook page. But blogs are a different animal. Bring in all the help you need to make a law firm or practice group blog timely, engaging and must-read. But the author and the voice of the blog must be the lawyer or lawyers behind it, or else all the relationship-, reputation-, and profile-enhancing aspects of blogging will be wasted, or worse.

Or maybe you’ll expend all these resources and get bupkis?


Make no mistake: your law firm needs lawyer-generated content if it hopes to compete for attention and respect on the Web.

Which leaves lawyers asking the only salient question.  Why do I want to get “attention and respect” on the web?  Until somebody comes up with a darn good answer to that question, blawging will remain a fun and enjoyable pastime for those of us who like writing stuff just in case anyone in the ether cares to read it, after which we can return to our work representing people. 

That the cottage industry of social media legal marketing exists may be troubling, but that lawyers aren’t willing to blindly swing at their pitches is encouraging.  Maybe there’s hope for lawyers yet?

Hate Your Judge? Give Him a Check

Electing judges has  long been a  subject of controversy in New York.  Between the limitations on campaign speech by judicial candidates, precluding anyone running for the robe from actually saying anything that might give someone a reason to vote for them, and the utter disinterest on the part of the public as to who they vote for, usually running the party line for lack of knowledge or concern, it’s just a goofy idea.

But there is a discrete group that both cares who gets elected, and knows who they want on the bench.  Yup, that would be us lawyers, and we’re the folks most likely to get the hand with open palm when it comes to financing a campaign. 

When some judge’s campaign guy looks you in the eye, with that overly sincere squint, and asks for a contribution, there’s an irresistible urge to lay your money down.  This is even more true if the judge happens to be a Surrogate, doling out gazillions of dollars of goodies, where there is a direct connection between a lawyer’s wallet and the judge’s signature hand.

To his credit, Court of Appeals Chief Judge Jonathan Lippman is trying to change the pay to play culture by  a new initiative to preclude judges from hearing cases or handing out bennies to any lawyer who has contributed $2,500 or more to their campaign.

New York’s top court officials will bar the state’s hundreds of elected judges from hearing cases involving lawyers and others who make significant contributions to their campaigns, a move that will change the political culture of courts and transform judicial elections by removing an important incentive lawyers have for contributing.

From the judicial side of the equation, this presents a bit of a problem.  If lawyers can’t contribute, then where the heck will they get the funding to run a campaign?  They’ve already tapped mom and dad, and the neighbors and folks at the club.  After that, they’re dry, as nobody else cares.  Of course, that’s the candidates problem, not the system’s, until somebody figures out that the only people who can afford to run for judicial office are those wealthy enough to cover the nut themselves and sociopathic enough to want to be a judge at significant financial jeopardy.  Bear in mind, the pay sucks.

At Point of Law, Ted Frank has come up with a different, but very astute, problem.


There’s no question that there is a problem in New York: as the Times article notes, there have been appalling quid pro quo arrangements where judges appoint campaign contributors to lucrative estate management positions that can generate millions in fees. But, as with other Chief Judge Lippman policy proposals, I wonder whether the unintended consequences have been entirely thought through. If I’m in New York state court, and dislike the judge my case has been assigned to, can I get a new judge for the mere cost of $2,500? If there’s a twelve-judge division, can a $27,500 investment ensure that I get the one judge I’d prefer my case to be assigned to?

A bit Machiavellian?  Well, yeah, but we’re lawyers.  Machiavellian is what we do best.  The numbers may be a bit pricey for your basic DWI, but when there’s a few million dollars on the line and a judge who tends not to be particularly sympathetic to clients like yours, spreading the wealth hardly seems like a bad idea.

There are a couple of aspects to the basic Supreme Court judge shopping mall that makes this a little more difficult than it might at first appear.  First, elected Supreme Court Justices serve a 14 year term and County Court Judges serve a term of 10 years, which means that the window of opportunity isn’t always open, and may not reopen for a very long time.  Second, many of the New York City judges are really Court of Claims appointees, used to fill empty slots, who don’t run for much of anything.  They don’t need your contributions.

Of course, that doesn’t mean you won’t hear a wooshing sound every time an election rolls around, of lawyers checks being sucked into campaign coffers of judges nobody wants to appear before.  After all, when the window of opportunity slams shut, it’s too late to mail in your contribution.  Decisive action is required if you hope to never appear before a judge again.

The problem raised by Ted is one of many, and I can’t recall any significant anti-corruption initiative that doesn’t have negative unintended consequences.  That’s because this is all a band-aid on a gaping wound caused by New York’s misguided Jacksonian urge to elect judges. 

And lest we forget, despite the rampant problems revealed by both the  New York Times as well as the Commission on Judicial Conduct. New York still allows  non-lawyers to be judges in its most vulnerable courts, producing a never ending source of jokes for everyone except the poor schnook who.has to appear before them.  If it costs only $2,500 to buy your way out of these courts, it would be money well spent.

In fairness, there’s likely no course for Judge Lippman to take that won’t have problematic consequences.  At least he’s trying, and my guess is that he has weighed the problems and decided that this is the right way to be.  Thus, it might be an unintended consequence, but it’s not unanticipated. He may be counting on the fact that lawyers are cheap and business is lousy to provide a counterbalance to the potential of gaming judge shopping by contributing to their campaigns.

Whether it turns out well is another matter, but that it’s got potential to wreak a little more havoc, as Ted suggests, is clear.  That’s invariably what happens when trying to find a decent solution to fix the wrong problem.

Truth or Consequences

If you can read this, thank a teacher.  On the other hand, the teacher may think you suck. Or your kids suck. Or you’re a lousy parent and your kids suck.  We know this because of Natalie Munroe.

From the PhillyBurbs :


The Central Bucks East High School English teacher who got suspended last week for complaining about her students on a blog is at it again.


And she is making no apologies for what she said – defending herself through her blog and in an interview with this newspaper Monday.


“There are serious problems with our education system today – with the way that schools and school district and students and parents take teachers who enter the education field full of life and hope and a desire to change the world and positively impact kids, and beat the life out of them and villainize them and blame them for everything – and those need to be brought to light. If this ‘scandal’ opens the door for that conversation, so be it. Let that conversation begin. Stay tuned here.”


The school district wasn’t please when it learned of Munroe’s blog posts.  Teachers have found it highly inappropriate that she was so disrespectful of her students.  She’s accused of exceptionally poor judgment.  There is clearly merit to these accusations.

Yet, if no teacher is allowed to say what she really thinks, then we only hear the happy stuff that we want to hear.  It doesn’t make the nasty stuff go away.  It merely allows us to exist in pleasant denial of reality.

So what does Munroe think of her students?



In one post, written a month after she started the blog, Munroe called her students “rude, lazy, disengaged whiners.” She fantasized in another post about telling their parents what she really thought about them.


She created a list of “canned comments” she thought teachers should be able to choose from for report cards, some of which contained profanity. The list included: “rat-like,” “dresses like a streetwalker,” “frightfully dim,” and “whiny, simpering grade-grubber with an unrealistically high perception of own ability level.”


Ouch.  And you thought I was the only one willing to be so blunt.

Munroe explains that this doesn’t mean that every student is a “rude, lazy, disengaged whiner,” just as not every millennial is a Slackoisie. 



Munroe says she does not hate her students, and actually likes some of them.


“But the fact remains that every year, more and more, students are coming in less willing to work, to think, to cooperate. These are the students I was complaining about in my blog.


But what parent wouldn’t be happier to hear that junior is a pleasure to have in class?  The rub is that the truth isn’t always happy.  By the time students learn that they aren’t the next best thing since sliced bread, which will likely come when they are rejected or fired from their first job for gross incompetence and a lousy attitude,

Parents are astounded.  How could it be that Muffy isn’t beloved, immediately made CEO and given the big corner office?  She’s a wonderful girl.  All her teachers said so.  Well, yeah, they did, but the only reason they kept shuffling Muffy up through the ranks was to get her out of their class and spare themselves an awkward meeting with you, Mom. 

One could well quibble with Munroe’s presentation of her issues, given that they were brutally honest and straightforward.  There aren’t too many folks around these days who want to hear the unvarnished truth.  Just a little sugar-coating, please.  Or as Mary Poppins says, just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.  But Munroe didn’t direct her invective at anyone in particular.  There was no reason why any parent should take it personally, unless they felt the pinch of a too-tight fitting show.

There are very strong incentives for both school boards and teachers to make parents happy.  Parents vote for school budgets, and school budgets fund teacher contracts.  Piss off parents and the entire school financing system collapses.  And with the possible exception of cop, there’s no better gig out there today than being a public school teacher.  It’s sweet.

And if it means the Buffy and Jody make it to adulthood as “rude lazy disengaged whiners,” so what?  As long as our beloved students, our beloved parents, are allowed to bask in the glow of sweet teacher comments about how wonderful they are.  Even if they aren’t.

As for Natalie Munroe, the chances of her collecting her teacher pension are growing increasingly slimmer.    Not because she’s wrong, but because truth has its consequences.

Top 3 Reasons Why There Was No Plea Offer

While there are a good number of Harris County prosecutors who don’t care for  Houston criminal defense lawyer Mark Bennett’s calling them out when they deserve to be called out, at least one thought he was the right lawyer to see an internal email.  Mark knew exactly what to do with it, and immediately post it on his blawg:



We are now six weeks into the new year and I wanted to announce some Trial Competitions.


Vehicular Crimes Section Award
The first ADA to try 10 DWI jury trials in 2011 will win this award.  The prize….you will get to sit second chair on an Intoxication Manslaughter or Felony Murder case with a prosecutor in the Vehicular Crimes Section.  You will be involved in trial preparation, take witnesses, and participate in the trial.


Trial Dawg Award
The first ADA to try 12 jury trials in 2011 will win this award.  The prize… you will get to sit second chair on a murder case with a felony chief level prosecutor from either the Trial Bureau or one of the specialized divisions, such as Major Offenders.  The trial record does not matter, except you have to be above 50 %.


Trial Court Award
If a court tries and completes THREE jury trials in a single week, the prosecutors in that court can comp. out by lunch time the following Friday.  It is encouraged that the members of the court do something together….lunch, movie, bowling.  Who will cover their court in their absence…keep reading.  The court (that has a 2 and a 3) that does not try any cases the same week the winning court(s) tries three cases, will have to cover the duties for the winning court.  If all courts , that have a 2 and a 3, try cases it will be up to Justin, Rachel, and I to cover.  We have excluded five courts from this competition for equity purposes.


The purpose of these competitions is to reward folks who go to trial and achieve justice.  In addition, hopefully it will be fun for all.  Those who have already tried multiple cases already this year have a head start on others.  Let the friendly competition begin….


There’s nothing like some spirited competition amongst the righteous to boost morale and get those prosecutorial juices flowing.  And really, shouldn’t it be fun?  We hear all the time how happy employees are good employees, and what could make an assistant happier than playing pin the crime on someone?

For good measure, and maybe just in case the email found its way to Mark, it concluded with these warm and fuzzy words.

And it goes without saying, what we do is always about justice.  Hopefully this will allow us to have some fun while we strive to achieve it…..

There’s only one problem with this bow to “justice.”  It’s inconsistent with everything else in the email. 

Perhaps the most critical element of the prosecutorial function is the exercise of discretion.  This spans the decision to charge, and what to charge, to the decision to offer an appropriate plea or go to trial.  The system expects and depends on prosecutors to exercise their discretion with no interest, no concern, no incentive, no benefit, other than to do justice.

Or win a prize!  Woo hoo!

Consider what becomes of the defendant who is charged for the very first time, and against whom the evidence is overwhelming.  Discretion suggests that he be offered a plea that would both deter him from committing another offense, but not one that will destroy his life or needlessly put him in prison.  But if the prosecutor happens to need just one more trial, just one more conviction, for the win, this is the case to try.

And it’s easy enough to shrug it all off.  After all, the prosecutor didn’t make the guy commit the crime.  The prosecutor didn’t legislate the punishment that is clearly excessive in this case.  The prosecutor isn’t at fault for merely failing to cut the guy a break.  Since when does a criminal deserve a break?

Plus, he can win a prize!  Woo hoo!

There will, no doubt, be prosecutors in Harris County whose conscience won’t allow them to put their winning a prize ahead of the appropriate exercise of discretion.  There will be those who remember that these are flesh and blood people who live with the decision they make, whether to offer an appropriate plea or force the case to trial.  They will think of their brothers and mothers, their cousins and nephews, before withholding a plea offer because they need a few more trials this week.

To win a prize!  Woo hoo!

There will likely be reaction to Bennett’s having obtained this internal email and posting it on the internet for all to see, including this New York lawyer who has no say in how the fine prosecutors in Harris County boost the morale of their assistants and reward them for trying more cases than the next one.  How dare Bennett reveal their secrets?  Doesn’t Bennett realize that this is how all prosecution offices are run, with incentives to get assistants to work harder, do better, win more.  And do justice?

The email reveals that there is no prize for the prosecutor who does the most or the best “justice.”  Then again, there would be no way to tell who the winner is.

Checking the List: Actual Innocence (Update)

So what if everybody knows.  There’s a law.  The law says what it requires.  How hard is that to understand?

Section 103.001(2)(b) is abundantly clear that only a person who “has been granted relief on the basis of
actual innocence of the crime for which the person was sentenced” is entitled to compensation.  When applying for compensation, the person must include “a verified copy of the pardon or court order
justifying the application for compensation” as well as “a certification of the claimant’s actual innocence
of the crime for which the claimant was sentenced that is signed by the attorney representing the state in the prosecution of felonies in the county in which the sentence was rendered.”

How hard is that to grasp?  And why not, since we’re talking here about compensating the wrongfully imprisoned, giving them a big old check with lots of zeroes.  The State of Texas isn’t going to hand them out to just anyone, nor should it.  These checks are directed at a very small, very discrete group:  The Actually Innocent.

By anyone’s account, Anthony Graves was a member of that small club.  After 18 years in prison, he was due $1.4 million, not quite compensation if you crunch the numbers, but something to get him back on his feet.  That he fit the criteria isn’t just from a criminal defense lawyer view, but the position of the special prosecutor assigned to retry him after the reversal of his conviction. From the Houston Chronicle :



“Who would have envisioned this kind of situation happening?” Siegler said.


“I’m willing to testify to the fact that we believe he’s innocent,” she said. “I’ve signed an affidavit. I’m not sure what we are supposed to do to make it happen.”

Yet Graves application was rejected for failure to meet the stringent criteria that seemed so clear, obvious and critical at the time the law was passed, that this was only a law for the “actually innocent.”  The comptroller, charged with determining eligibility under the law, had no choice.



The letter from the comptroller’s office said the court order must indicate “on its face” that it was granted “on the claimant’s actual innocence.” Comptroller’s office spokesman R.J. Silva said the law did not allow for special consideration of the facts in Graves’ case.

Certainly it’s not the comptroller’s fault that the law requires the words “actual innocence.”  They don’t write the law. They just apply it. 

The question is why, given that the law demands a judgment of “actual innocence,” no such judgment issued.



Kelly Siegler, the special prosecutor who recommended dropping the charges against Graves, said that the words “actual innocence” are not commonly used in the courtroom. She said the compensation law likely was designed for cases involving innocence proven through DNA, not a case thrown out by prosecutors after a reexamination of the evidence.

No doubt she’s correct, that the Texas Legislature enacted this law in reaction to the wealth of DNA exonerations saving innocents from execution.  It’s unclear whether this is because Texas convicted more innocents than other states, or just likes to kill them more.  The underlying assumption, of course, is that there’s something special about a convicted defendant who is conclusively proven innocent by scientific evidence.

None of this does much for Anthony Graves at the moment.  The judge who dismissed Graves’ case could have included the magic words “actual innocence” as the reason for dismissal, and thus enabled him to claim compensation.  That didn’t happen.  Whether he can go for a second bite, with the prosecutor’s consent, and seek a new order, nunc pro tunc, finding the basis for dismissal to be “actual innocence” is an open question.  Not being sufficiently familiar with Texas criminal procedure, I can’t answer that question.

But it hardly comes as a surprise that compensation was denied because the magic words didn’t appear “on the face” of the order.  This is how laws work.  This is how grocery clerks check their list.  This is the way we deal with reactionary laws, enacted to address a specific situation, where other, unintended consequences were never fully considered.

Or perhaps the Texas Legislature did consider the full wealth of options and decided that they were only willing to provide compensation to a limited group of imprisoned innocent people, those for whom there could be no doubt, none whatsoever, of their innocence, as proven by scientific evidence.

A maxim in civil law is that the law does not provide a remedy for all the wrongs that man can inflict.  It’s not to say that this isn’t unfair, but that sometimes unfair things happen without recourse.  Not every wrong is compensable.  Texas has decided that Anthony Graves, incarcerated for long enough for a baby to reach her majority, will be left out in the cold.  Not that he’s undeserving, but that he’s the one for whom no remedy is available.

The disconnect here is inherent in the adoption of the magic words, “actual innocence.”  It’s conceptually wrong, a creature manufactured by those who refuse to accept the fundamental premise that a person not proven guilty is innocent because, under our system, that’s what he’s presumed to be.  In order to distinguish between the “not guilty” person, who they believe is really guilty and just got away with it, and the “actually innocent” person, who has the great fortune of having a scientific test available that others do not, this higher order of innocent has been created.  The mere “not guilty” innocent thus remains in a legal purgatory, where we might tolerate his freedom but surely won’t give him any cash to spend.

Still, they utter the platitude of “presumed innocent” regularly, but won’t put their money where their mouth is.

As Kelly Seigler correctly notes, the words “actual innocence are not commonly used in courtrooms.”  That will surely save the Republic of Texas a bundle of money.  And in the scheme of imprisoning, if not executing, people who aren’t proven to be guilty, isn’t that a good enough reason for some grocery clerk to require the magic words, so he can check them off his list before approving the pay out?

Update: Scott Henson at Grits for Breakfast , who was involved in lobbying for the compensation law, offers some inside explanation for its language.

The Comptroller ruled that the innocence compensation statute, which in the interest of full disclosure I helped lobby for in 2009 on behalf of the Innocence Project of Texas, doesn’t cover Graves’ unique circumstances. The statute was designed to address the 21st century rise of DNA exonerations, while Graves’ case doesn’t fit that narrow procedural mold. And, the reality is the language was a compromise with DAs and law enforcement interests who didn’t want to expand the definition of “exoneree” too broadly, which is the practical reason for the disconnect between the statute language and courtroom procedure that Scott Greenfield discusses. Still, it’d be a shame for him to have to resort to some massive federal civil rights lawsuit when the Governor agrees that Graves was falsely convicted and “deserves” compensation.

Which is why it’s not as simple as people think to write a law that fully meets its purpose.  It may have looked sweet at the time, but this is why the view that compromise is better than nothing doesn’t always work out as well as hoped..

Driving That Train . . .

I admit it, I’ve never been very good at seizing upon empty platitudes, cute metaphors or empty strings of words as a call to action.  People who love committees and consensus see this as a character flaw, which could explain why no one asked me to sit on the ABA Panel on the Future of Lawyering.  Then again, they didn’t ask Tannebaum to sit on the panel either, and he’s a company man.


If you think nostalgically about the practice of law and how it used to be, then you are on the train tracks and not on the train,” said former Connecticut Bar President Frederic Ury, who is the president–elect of the National Conference of Bar Presidents.

Hey, I think nostalgically about the practice of law.  I think about how it used to be.  That means (gasp) I’m on the train tracks and not on the train.  Uh oh.

I think about the days when lawyers understood that the client was their focus, not making money or enjoying work/life balance.  I think about the days when lawyers weren’t afraid of hard work and sacrifice, and understood that being a professional meant putting the welfare of your client ahead of your own. 

I also think about the days when excellence was something you developed and reputation was something you earned, rather than words a marketer put on your website or the bravado of the hungry baby lawyer.

And now the leaders of the official bar associations tell me that I’m on the train tracks and not on the train.  So where the heck is this train of yours heading?


“The development of artificial intelligence along with increased Internet search capabilities is making access to answers for complex legal questions easier and cheaper.

My gut reaction is to channel H.L.Mencken, but I fear that reference would be lost on these important bar association officials.  Clearly, this Fred Ury is trying to tell me something and I’m too much of a dinosaur to get it.


Why is someone going to pay $700 to have a lawyer prepare a will when they can get it for $49 online,” said Ury. “We have had a monopoly on answering legal questions about the law. But the consumer–our former clients–can now get that information for free on Google.

“Virtual law firms are here,” he said, “and there are now thousands of small town and small firm lawyers who once depended on those consumers who may not make it.

Until now, I hadn’t realized how out of touch I’ve become.  It suddenly dawns on me why Ury concludes that people can obtain answers to “complex legal questions easier and cheaper” on Google than going to a lawyer.  I didn’t see the writing on the wall. 

The quality of legal advice available today from the mouths and minds of lawyers is no better than the worthless crap one finds on Google.

I’ve seen the legal advice the internet has to offer.  It’s bad.  It’s worse than bad. It’s dangerously awful.  It downright sucks.  So what Fred Ury is saying is that the advice coming from living, breathing lawyers is no better than the Google garbage.

Holy moly.  Up to now, I had been looking at it all wrong.  It had long been my understanding that the important official people who desperately wanted to hold high office in bar associations were of the view that lawyers offered something more, something better, than crap on the internet.  Never did I realize that the profession had devolved to the point that living, breathing lawyers were not only unworthy of being retained, but superfluous, incapable of doing any better than a $49 will.  Who knew?

This is the message being sent to those of us with tickets to sell used cars in court by the most August Association in the profession, the American Bar Association.  You suck so bad that Google is just as good.

And so I’m here on the train tracks rather than on the train.


So while some legal services are available via keyboard and internet connection, there will always be clients who for some crazy reason, would rather actually talk to a lawyer, in person, before having documents prepared for signature that will affect some aspect of their future.

If you want to compete with the $70 virtual lawyer, become a virtual lawyer and charge $67.50. Lawyers today well know the tactics that comprise the race to the bottom.

I am off the train, and I’m not getting on, no matter how many train riders scream for me to jump on board.

And I’ve got Tannebaum on the train tracks with me, though not for exactly the same reason.  Whether or not there are clients who, “for some crazy reason,” want a real lawyers in place of Google, it strike this old dinosaur that there are still a few lawyers whose advice is better than Google, whose answers to “complex legal questions” cannot be found easier and cheaper online.

Of course, that’s just my view.  Clearly, it’s not shared by the Fred Ury or the ABA.

A Higher Education

Radley Balko has taken time off from  puppy love to note another isolated incident, the  second such isolated incident coming out of beautiful New Brunswick, New Jersey in a week.  They’re certainly getting their money’s worth out of the local cops in Jersey.

The latest involves two Rutgers students who  made the mistake of renting the basement apartment in a house where a warrant was to be executed.


Two Rutgers roommates say they were sleeping in the early morning hours of December 10th and had no idea who was barging into the basement room they share in an off-campus house in New Brunswick.


“I got hit in the face; I got hit in the ribs. That’s basically what happened,” said Kareem Najjar, a Rutgers University student.


“I remember basically waking up to being hit, on the side of my face, on my back I got kicked a couple of times and stepped on,” Kostman said.


You can never tell when some student, against whom no evidence exists to suggest they are in any way involved in criminal activity, might attack.  Better safe than sorry, the police manual spells out, so first subdue them as violently as possible.



The roommates say it wasn’t until they were handcuffed that they were told this was a raid by New Brunswick Police who apparently had a warrant for someone else in the house.


“You were never arrested?” Eyewitness News reporter Sarah Wallace asked.


“No, and we asked why we were being arrested and they said, ‘you’re not being arrested you are being detained’,” Najjar said.


Once they were finally released, they say the cops had ransacked their room, and left them sitting for nearly two hours in their underwear in the cold.


Kostman claims his handcuffs were so tight and on for so long, he now has permanent nerve damage in his thumb.


That’s the price one has to pay for police safety.  Don’t like it? Well, next time you’re in trouble, call a criminal.  Chances are they won’t do as much damage.

None of this, of course, comes as much of a surprise.  It happens.  It happens over and over.  And then it happens again.  The larger question, of course, is why we continue to tolerate police doing this, and the answer can be found in the comments to the story at My Central Jersey :



7:44 AM on February 12, 2011


So many are quick to judge before all the facts are in. I’m sure these two “college students” are not as pure as the driven snow. The term “Brutal Beating” has become a standard whine for media releases and frivolus lawsuits.


8:09 PM on February 11, 2011


These type of things tend to happen when you live in a drug house!


2:51 PM on February 12, 2011


Are you referring to one where 4 of 5 cops are on top of a guy who is still resisting arrest, and the cop hits him four times? In my opinion, and most the people who commented on that article, the guy got what he deserved. A cop tells me to do something, and I do it. These cops have a tough job, dealing with strong young men with poorly developed brains.


5:59 AM on February 12, 2011


Because the smell of $$$$$ is more attractive when you sue for it instead of earning it. When they lose a case, those who file frivolous lawsuits should be made to pay ALL Court Costs! Students don’t want their parents (who are paying tuition for their little darlings) to know what they are up to and try to distort things so that they look like the victims. Remember Tyler Clementi. Over the years we have seen the drunkeness, DWI’s, drug use, fights, assault, theft by these little angels away from home for the first time and it creates a huge expense for the taxpayers here. We are sick of it and the media should not pander to it.


7:48 AM on February 12, 2011


Many Rutgers students have become as bad as some of the local low lives in New Brunswick. It took 2 months so they could get together with their schiester lawyer and come up with a greatly embellished tale of woe.


They don’t call it the Garden State for nothing.  Plant a seed and it grows.  Sometimes it grows stupid.

I’ve expressed concern that those of us who are inclined to find these isolated incidents disturbing are becoming desensitized to them by the onslaught of videos and images of brutal police conduct.  But what of those who don’t find it troubling at all?

It strikes many of us, myself included, as impossible to learn of these isolated incidents and not have them influence our realization of what happens on the streets.  We see kids, college students, beaten, sometimes killed, by police.  By mistake.  For nothing.  What part of a brain allows a person to disconnect the harm done with the recognition that these are our children, our brothers, our friends, and makes it acceptable to sacrifice them in the name of order?

I fear the answer remains that until it happens to them, until it touches them personally, there will be a way that those who adore order, and the enforcers of order, to excuse it.  The only good news is that at the pace police abuse and misconduct is going, it may touch them sooner than they think.  Only when it touches their lives will these apologists and blamers get a higher education.  And then they’ll wonder why everyone doesn’t feel bad for them.

But I wonder whether it will reach a point where police officers, most of whom I want to believe are men and women of good will and conscience, have had enough of watching videos of their own doing this to people.
Will cops ever reach the point where they won’t tolerate the beatings anymore?


“I don’t think anyone should ever be allowed to just come into your house and just beat the crap out of you,” Kostman said.

Will cops ever agree?