It’s becoming increasingly difficult for an academic to stake out a place for himself in the universe of worthless scholarship. Danielle Citron owns Cyber Civil Rights. Mary Anne Franks nailed down revenge porn. Even the empathetic killer space was nabbed by Robert Blecker.
Poor Thane Rosenbaum of Fordham Law School was nicheless. Sure, he tried his hand at being the hero of revenge, but nobody noticed. There were lots of articles about the enemies of Judaism, but there is no juice left in condemning Eichmann, even with Osama bin Laden thrown in for timeliness. He would never become a brand this way.
But maybe, just maybe, by combining his interests he could develop a new niche, a heretofore unrecognized space that he could fill? Enter the Daily Beast:
New studies show that unbridled hateful speech can cause emotional harm. Is it time for the United States to follow other democracies and impose limits on what Neo-Nazis and other haters say?
Guess what Thane has to say about it? After all, other countries outlaw language and gestures relating to the Nazis. Who wants to be second banana to France?
To Americans, these actions in France and Israel seem positively undemocratic. The First Amendment would never prohibit the quenelle, regardless of its symbolic meaning. And any lover of “Seinfeld” would regard banning the “Soup Nazi” episode as scandalously un-American. After all, in 1977 a federal court upheld the right of neo-Nazis to goose-step right through the town of Skokie, Illinois, which had a disproportionately large number of Holocaust survivors as residents. And more recently, the Supreme Court upheld the right of a church group opposed to gays serving in the military to picket the funeral of a dead marine with signs that read, “God Hates Fags.”
Had Thane ended here, we would all shake our heads in confused agreement. Well, yeah, this is how we roll in America. Thanks for reminding us. Pass the fries. But no, this isn’t where Thane ended. It’s just his beginning, the base of the strawman he’s about to build.
Yet, even in the United States, free speech is not unlimited. Certain proscribed categories have always existed—libel, slander and defamation, obscenity, “fighting words,” and the “incitement of imminent lawlessness”—where the First Amendment does not protect the speaker, where the right to speak is curtailed for reasons of general welfare and public safety. There is no freedom to shout “fire” in a crowded theater.
Note: Whenever anyone raises the “fire in a crowded theater” example, they’re playing their reader for a fool. It’s Holmes’ metaphor in Schenk v. United States to show how a clear and present danger isn’t protected speech under peculiar circumstances. Yet he was also clear in his famous dissents that expressions of honest opinion were entitled to near-absolute protection. The point is that fallback on the “fire in a crowded theater” line is almost invariably used to obfuscate an argument rather than enlighten. Be wary.
So the First Amendment isn’t absolute. No news there, Thane. What else you got?
Yet, the confusion is that in placing limits on speech we privilege physical over emotional harm. Indeed, we have an entire legal system, and an attitude toward speech, that takes its cue from a nursery rhyme: “Stick and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me.”
All of us know, however, and despite what we tell our children, names do, indeed, hurt.
Takes its cue from a nursery rhyme? Got a cite for that proposition, bud? Didn’t think so. While the sticks and stones rhyme may well embody the concept, trying to pass off doctrine as an outgrowth of it isn’t going to play. We “privilege” physical over emotional harm because one is real and undeniable as there are actual, objectively provable, manifestations of harm, while the other is a product of individual sensitivity and only shown by subjective claims.
We impose speed limits on driving and regulate food and drugs because we know that the costs of not doing so can lead to accidents and harm. Why should speech be exempt from public welfare concerns when its social costs can be even more injurious?
Glad you asked. The current cultural elevation of hurt feelings to physical harm status, and even higher by your argument, presents a disastrous crossroads. I’m Jewish, and was raised in the post-World War II culture of “never again.” I share the sensitivity toward facile Nazi comparisons and won’t let it happen here. It’s not that I stifle the idea, but the language. Anyone seeking to make the point has to work harder than just invoking Godwin’s Law.
But this is a crossroads, Thane. We can strengthen both our spirit and resolve, as well as honoring the American ideal of free speech, by bolstering people’s strength to ignore and overcome hurt feelings rather than enable them to wallow in their misery. We teach children — hence the nursery rhyme — not to let mean words hurt their feelings. This makes them stronger. You make them weaker.
From a doctrinal perspective, however, your argument is utterly insane. There can be no law crafted that gives notice to a speaker as to what words will hurt someone’s feelings sufficiently to land them in jail. Speech to one listener is no big deal, but to another, a delicate flower, is a crime?
Of course, everything is a matter of degree. Juries are faced with similar ambiguities when it comes to physical injury. No one knows for certain whether the plaintiff wearing a neck brace can’t actually run the New York Marathon. We tolerate the fake slip and fall, but we feel absolutely helpless in evaluating whether words and gestures intended to harm actually do cause harm. Jurors are as capable of working through these uncertainties in the area of emotional harms as they are in the realm of physical injury.
So while conceding that there is no way to distinguish lawful speech from unlawful, your solution is to substitute the sensibilities of a jury as to what is sufficiently “hurtful” to make words a crime? What could possibly go wrong, as prosecutors try to load the jury with those most inclined to wallow in their feelings while the defense seeks to stack it with emotional atheists. That clears up the whole notice concept.
Free speech should not stand in the way of common decency. No right should be so freely and recklessly exercised that it becomes an impediment to civil society, making it so that others are made to feel less free, their private space and peace invaded, their sensitivities cruelly trampled upon.
If it’s about common decency, then it is, by definition, common, and we can all hope to make it through life without being overwhelmed by mean words and bad feelings to the point where we are so horribly butthurt as to quiver in the corner from psychic pain.
But sometimes, people say things that hurt feelings because they’re true. If you don’t want someone to call you stupid, don’t be stupid. And if a bunch of jack-booted assholes want to play act neo-Nazis, they don’t hurt my feelings. Never again, Thane. If it troubles you so what the nutjobs say or do, then you need to look into whatever emotional wound you carry and heal it. No one can hurt you with words or ideas unless you let them.
So this isn’t going to fly, Thane. Sure, it’s an outrageous niche, being another free speech hater and butthurt protector, but it’s got no traction. At least the others can play off gender politics or fear of crime to get the weak-minded to join the gang. We learned to be tough enough to never let the neo-Nazi’s get our goat fifty years ago, and we can let them speak. There is nothing they can say that will ever hurt our feelings, and if they try to hurt us physically, we will crush them.
Update: Ken White at Popehat provides an excellent discussion of the relevant legal concepts belying Rosenbaum’s argument, and why Thane’s attempt to misuse them is just a monumental botch.
Why do people trying to quote Holmes always end up misquoting him? He was talking about — and used the actual words — falsely shouting fire. If the theater’s actually on fire, people might want to know.
Even though the “falsely” language didn’t really bear upon this post, I should have made this point as well since I was dealing with it. Thanks for filling the gaping hole I left behind.
Second part then. Even the false shout of “fire” wasn’t enough. It’s “falsely shouting fire in a theatre AND causing a panic.”
Oh dammit. Here’s the full quote:
This is a very tough crowd. Is everybody happy now?
Bust Scott’s chops or watch the Super Bowl? I know which way I’m going! : )
I was watching one of those Sunday morning political talk shows two weeks ago, where some conservative was asking someone from Colorado whether or not he was a Patriot. The guy responded, “Every other day of the year, I’m a patriot. Today, I am a Bronco.”
Me too. If I can’t have the regular Manning, I’ll take the spare. Chicken wings, anyone?
Hey, I was happy from the start after you published this great take-down of the small-minded (as usual) Rosenbaum. I got here from Ken at Popehat, and now I have a new legal website to puruse
Does Ken pay people 5 cents to mention that they came from Popehat? Because, you know, he charges me a dime for the link per person who mentions Popehat. He must be raking in the dough.
Even in the civil context, courts have wisely been reluctant to allow claims for emotional damages for non-physical injuries. You can get them for a battery/false imprisonment, or for negligence involving physical injury, but in each case the “victim”/claimant has had his bodily integrity or liberty damaged and the emotional damage arises out of its consequence from that specific injury or loss of function.
Even in states that have recognized intentional infliction of emotional distress, the pleading threshold usually requires both conduct violating ALL civilized bounds AND severe damages – arguably still a free speech problem in a given case, but likely through the end-of-the-bell-curve limits to dismiss most mere “fee-fee” whining and junk suits. Thane Rosenbaum has gone far beyond IIED’s typical limits.
Though used too often, I think Rosenbaum’s position qualifies as a truly “unhinged” view.
If you want to see “truly unhinged,” take a look at Rosenbaum’s book, “The Myth of Moral Justice.”
Rosenbaum calls for a radical replacement of the entire criminal and civil justice system without ever in 300+ pages acknowledging the possibility that a criminal defendant might be innocent or a tort plaintiff’s allegations might be unfounded. Rosenbaum doesn’t let little details like guilt and innocence bother him — that might get in the way of making alleged victims feel better about the process. And his evidence of the manifest injustice of the current system? Scenes from fictional (!) movies and books.
I can’t say I’m surprised by his take on free speech.
I am eternally grateful that I never read his book.
It was a birthday present from a very close (non-lawyer) friend. I felt strangely obligated to finish it.
Pingback: Professor Than Rosenbaum Deceptively Carries On The Tradition of Censorship-Cheerleading | Popehat
What struck me on reading Rosenblaum’s piece was the example of M’Bala M’Bala in France to demonstrate how awful speech can be and then, almost immediately, the notion that free speech restrictions like those in France should be something we consider here. How are those restrictions working out for the French again?
Best case the restrictions are simply not useful in stopping people from engaging in stupidity like the quenelle. Worst case, it actually encourages such behavior by giving people something to feel justified fighting against.
As Bob Dylan said to me the other day about France, it’s Idiot Wind.
And Bobby recently warned me too: “Fools making laws for the breaking of jaws,
And the sound of the keys as they clink,
But there’s no time to think” . . .
Never shout the words “Bob Dylan” in a crowded concert, regardless of the truth or falsity of the statement. Shit will happen!! . . .
I did that once, and got away with it. I can’t help it if I’m lucky.
The key thing that this approach relies on is an appeal to emotion. It seem to me that “cyber bullying” would be a good emotional bandwagon to hook yourself to if you wanted to degrade free speech rights. After all, “think of the children”. Only a fiend would object to protecting children.
It was replete with logical fallacies, an appeal to emotion being fundamental to his pitch, as well as appeal to authority and strawman arguments. I’m always surprised when someone who purports to be a scholar indulges in such obvious trickery.
Pingback: Law Professor Says Free Speech in the U.S. Goes Too Far, Wants to Criminalize Causing Hurt Feelings
Pingback: Who decides which distressing speech ought to be made illegal? - Overlawyered
Pingback: Fordham Prof | article | hate speech | free speech debate