I was talking to a cop. Yes, I talk to cops. In fact, I know quite a few, and have some I count as friends. This will not only come as a shock to some, but will repulse a few. They’re the enemy. They’re evil. Maybe not as people, out of uniform and playing ball with their kids, but strap on a gun and shield and they’re the personification of a blue monster that subjugates ordinary Americans.
By reducing police to caricatures, we diminish ourselves and our ability to make any headway on changing a troubling situation. Back in the 50’s and early 60’s, the public saw cops as Andy Griffith and Barney Fife. Sheriff Andy was wise and caring, invariably honest and trustworthy. Deputy Barney was a lovable imbecile with a heart of gold. Then came the protests of Vietnam, the Yippies, and cops earned a new name: Pigs.
Neither was quite true, yet neither was entirely false either. Like judges, like lawyers, like everyone, cops are people. Some are quite smart and caring. Many aren’t the sharpest knives on the Sam Browne. But what distinguishes them is that they embrace a culture that includes one certainty, that no one understands the job of a cop except another cop.
As I spoke with this cop, someone I had known for many years and with whom I shared some yucks in the past, the subject turned slightly unpleasant. It was about expectations, whether he had done his job well enough. I suggested he hadn’t. This made him angry. I apologized for “hurting his feelings,” which he vehemently denied. “You can’t hurt my feelings,” he responded. Of course, I did, but by denying it, he could avoid dealing with the issue.
We talked about good cops and bad cops, and about good cops who close their eyes when other cops do bad things. We talked about how a good cop does something bad. We talked about how hard it is to get rid of bad cops. We talked about responsibility to the public. He explained to me how nothing is as simple as non-cops thought it was. To hear him, the police were as close to sainthood any anyone with a gun could be. “Not perfect,” he conceded, but as nearly perfect as any human beings could be by his characterization.
I challenged this assessment.
After going around the block a few times, and accomplishing nothing, he finally told me that I was just a cop hater. A cop hater? By saying that, an ad hominem in the logical fallacy sense, he was able to dismiss anything I said, any argument I made. The discussion was at its end.
Not long ago, Brian Tannebaum called for a national conversation on law enforcement. Mirriam Seddiq demonstrated how the situation has gone on for too long, without improvement. In my little way, I tried to have this chat with one cop, and it didn’t go well. Rather than discuss the good and the bad, I ran head first into the wall of “cop hater.”
Many have given up hope of change, screaming at every opportunity about how cops are evil. What would they do? We need police. There are bad people out there and, most of the time, the police serve to protect us from them. They do so at personal risk, even though we can excuse that as being part of their job. Would the screamers get rid of cops? That won’t work out well. The police exist for a purpose, and that purpose has to be served. We need police.
Just as people see only the cop who beats the guy for nothing, or arrests someone for standing too close to a subway door, they are blind to the cop who helps someone, or who protects the person in need. What haters refuse to see is that it’s the same cop, the same person. One day, you thank him. The next day, you curse him. And when you scream your hatred, he only hears the shriek of a cop hater.
What was clear is that the cop wasn’t going to accept me as a voice worthy of questioning him. I wasn’t a cop. I didn’t get it. I could never get it in his mind. So anything I said, no matter how reasonable or true, could be dismissed as the words of a cop hater. He was happy to listen to me compliment him, thank him, but there was no way he was going to accept my criticism or question.
It occurred to me that the only way any conversation could be had was one cop to another. Only then could the facile ad hominem be refused. A cop can tell me I don’t get it, but he can’t say that to another cop. Or a former cop, though I’m not entirely clear that cops accept the idea that a former cop, the minute he puts in his papers, loses all memory of the job and all credibility. There may be a precipitous drop as soon as a cop hangs up his shield, where he goes from “us” to “them” in a flash.
I know there are cops who see the problems, who feel the pain people suffer at the hands of their brethren. You join LEAP. You have blogs. You speak out here from time to time. Cops won’t listen to me. The screamers make the situation significantly worse, adding to the polarization of the respective interests. But you, officer and detective, you can speak out.
They can’t say you don’t get it. They can’t call you a cop hater. If you believe we have a problem that needs to be addressed, then it’s time for you to say something. Maybe they won’t listen to you either, but you need to try because they will never listen to us “cop haters.”
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7 Years Lost in Gitmo
In the New York Times, Lakhdar Boumediene tells of the seven years he lost in Guantánamo for nothing.
In a decision that bears my name, the Supreme Court declared that “the laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times.” It ruled that prisoners like me, no matter how serious the accusations, have a right to a day in court. The Supreme Court recognized a basic truth: the government makes mistakes. And the court said that because “the consequence of error may be detention of persons for the duration of hostilities that may last a generation or more, this is a risk too significant to ignore.”
Yes, the government makes mistakes. And now, the NDAA institutionalizes the government’s authority to be wrong, without anyone to question or challenge.
Race to the Bottom Continues: The Legal Arena
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The concept behind the Legal Arena provided a curious juxtaposition to the other schemes promoted as the magic bullet for success. Rather than lowball your way to wealth and prestige, or deceive as many “legal consumers” as you can, the claim is to promote lawyers based on their “consumer approval.”
HOW IT WORKS
In a nut shell, TheLegalArena.com provides consumers the ability to privately post their legal matter and then THEY select the BEST attorneys in their local area to view and compete for their case. Consumers remain in 100% control of the site by selecting as few or as many attorneys as THEY wish to view and compete for their case.
Now, here is where it gets very interesting…. To assist the consumers with their selection, they can view each attorney’s profile and view the number of “Consumer Approvals” each attorney has received. Each attorney is ranked on the site based on the number of “Consumer Approvals” they have received. The more the attorney has, the higher they rank. The higher they rank, the more likely they are to be selected to view and compete for cases.
Certainly, consumer approval is a good thing, right? Well, yes. Yes it is. The idea of lawyers being initially promoted based on a metric, even if imperfect, of competence, and only then proposing a fee structure or relationship, addresses one of the fundamental issues with prior efforts to great an innovative new means of connecting lawyers and clients. If the foundation is quality, and only afterward price, then it won’t serve to deceive and take advantage of the public. Are these guys onto something?
So I asked Catherine if she could explain how exactly this worked. She did some poking around and reported back:
I just played the videos on the website. To get approvals, you post your Legal Arena “profile” on Facebook, etc., and ask your “friends, family and lawyers you know” to click on the “approved” button. I guess you could even ask your dog, because on the internet, nobody knows . . . . Some of the approvals might come from clients, but there doesn’t seem to be any way to tell that.
Once again, too good to be true. Your dog loves you? Yeah, well, not enough to make you the best lawyer in town. Thanks for playing.
The argument that lawyers are just resistent to new concepts, to entrepreneurs who want to revolutionize something, whose marketing rhetoric about helping consumers while, miraculously, making money for lawyers, is wearing thin.
I applauded the mall lawyers, and think there’s merit to lawyers working out of Walmart. The reason I look at these “new and innovative” concepts is that I want to find better, more effective ways for lawyers to serve underserved populations. And I’ve got nothing against lawyers making money. We need to find new, better, ways to fulfill our mission. But that doesn’t mean any new way is better.
The interests in providing quality lawyering at an affordable price are not well served by schemes and scams. While the “consumer approval” concept may emit the fragrant odor of a marketers’ dream, it’s ripe for deception and abuse. If anybody can “like” a lawyer, then the concept is worse than meaningless. It’s an invitation for deception. That doesn’t mean that every lawyer who uses it is unethical, but the very concept penalizes the honest lawyer who doesn’t put the keyboard in front of his dog and hope his paw hits the right button.
Is there a way this could be used in an ethical fashion? Of course. If the lawyers who join behave ethically and honestly, by only having actual clients approve (or disapprove?) of them. Want to count on that happening? Me neither. And there is still the quantity over quality problem. And the list goes on.
Had Catherine not sent over her invitation, there’s little chance I would have heard about this latest foray in the race to the bottom. The Legal Arena isn’t a “player,” and its just one of the morass of websites hoping to catch sufficient interest from lawyers and clients to gain a niche. Whether you will ever hear of it again has yet to be seen, but it serves to further an important point. It’s fairly easy to come up with some latest, greatest, marketing scheme for lawyers and clients that will “change everything,” provided you don’t mind jumping into gutter.
It’s becoming increasingly clear that as much as the spirit of entrepreneurship is alive when it comes to trying to skim a piece of the legal services pie, no one has been able to come up with a means of doing so that isn’t fraught with functional problems and ethical pitfalls. It would be great if all lawyers engaging in online self-promotion and marketing would do so with the utmost integrity, and it these “innovative” concepts could figure out a way to prevent the unsavory from making their way to the top of the list. It would be great. And yet, it hasn’t happened. The 99% always find a way to make the 1% look bad.
Much as I’m beginning (beginning?) to sound like a Negative Nelly, even to myself, the stream of flawed, even dangerous, concepts that claim to be the next great thing for lawyers on the internet only adds to the downward spiral, the race to the bottom. Believe it or not, I truly hope someone, whether kid or geezer, whether lawyer or lay-person, anyone, comes up with a better way. I don’t know if it exists, but I hope it does.
But it has to be legitimate, honest and capable of precluding the myriad ethical dilemmas that lend themselves to abuse, where its predecessors have failed.
One of the reasons we keep doing it the old way is that it’s not easy to come up with a new way that isn’t worse. Sorry, but no amount of marketing adjectives are going to change our ethical obligations.
Pulling The Trigger
The reaction to a headline of police killing a middle school students is visceral. No reasonable person reacts well to a child being shot dead. But it isn’t always that simple.
In Brownsville, Texas, police shot and killed Jaime Gonzalez.
Police shot and killed an eighth-grader in the hallway of his middle school Wednesday after the boy brandished what looked like a handgun and pointed it at officers. It turned out to be a pellet gun that closely resembled the real thing.
Fifteen-year-old Jaime Gonzalez “had plenty of opportunities to lower the gun and listen to the officers’ orders, and he didn’t want to,” Interim Police Chief Orlando Rodriguez said.
Shortly before the confrontation, the boy had walked into a classroom and punched a random boy in the nose for no apparent reason, police said. Investigators did not know why he pulled out the weapon.
Since this news broke, it’s been suggested that the reason Jaime brought a pellet gun to school was that he was being bullied. What this means isn’t clear. Whether it’s true isn’t clear. Regardless, bringing a gun to school, even a pellet gun, is not the way to deal with bullying.
The reaction to this tragedy, and it is always a tragedy when a child is killed, is mixed. At This Can’t Be Happening, Dave Lindorff writes:
Let me say unequivocally from the outset that, yes, whatever police authorities may say about “justified use of force,” the cops in this instance used excessive force (American cops these days are in military mode, and justify just about any firing of an officer’s weapon). Unless there were other children who were being held hostage by Gonzalez (there were not), or who were near him and being threatened (there were not), the police had no reason to kill him. For one thing, a pellet gun has such a tiny muzzle opening it would be pretty hard to mistake it for the muzzle of a Glock, as police are claiming, unless Brownsville police have very low vision standards. Furthermore, there is the question of why three shots were fired, why they were fired at the chest of a child with clear intent to kill, and of course, there’s that shot to the back of the head, which is simply unjustifiable under any circumstances.
I want to agree with him. I can’t. While the desire that police perform with the scripted precision of an action movie is understandable, there is a line, bound by realistic human limitations, beyond which no one can be held. Not even cops.
Jaime Gonzalez was terribly wrong and foolish to bring a gun to school, and yet, no matter how wrong he was, it’s not something for which we can ignore the tragedy of his death. He was terribly wrong not to drop the gun upon command of the police, and there is no question in this instance based on witnesses that he was told to drop the gun. He didn’t. Even more foolishness. He might have frozen, unable to process the words or the situation. Stuck, gun in hand, trying to figure out what was happening around him. Maybe a few more seconds and it would have clicked. The gun would have fallen from his hands, and no child would have died.
These are the sorts of things we think about in trying to make sense of tragedy, excuses and rationalizations of what might have given rise to it. The next thing that kicks in is how it could have ended differently. The cops could have shot the gun out of his hand, like they do in Westerns. They could have gone for a non-lethal, shot, his legs perhaps. If they had just winged him, then he would have been hurt but still alive.
In every potentially lethal confrontation, there are an array of variables that might have altered the outcome. Because of our hope that no child dies this way, we painstakingly parse the details to try to find a way that it wouldn’t have happened because we dread it happening. And yet, as tragic as Jaime’s death is, this time the police weren’t at fault.
The police were confronted with a person with a gun in a school. It’s possible that they might have noticed it was a pellet gun rather than a Glock, but to expect that degree of nuance under the circumstances is too much. As I’ve been told many times, very real guns come in all manner of sizes and shapes, and we cannot demand the police to wait until its bullet strikes someone to figure out how lethal it is.
The police commanded Jaime to drop the gun. He didn’t, at least not quickly enough. Perhaps, had they waited a bit longer, he would have. Or perhaps he would have fired while they were waiting.
The police are trained that if they are authorized to use deadly force, they are to shoot to kill. This isn’t a movie. Few people are so skilled that they can shoot the gun from a hand, or wing a person sufficiently to end the threat. And if the attempt to do so misses, the next shot may come from the other direction and hit its mark. If they shoot, the police shoot to kill. If not, they shouldn’t shoot at all. The notion that guns rightly fire but in less than lethal ways is a fantasy we harbor in the hope that the least possible harm can be accomplished. But guns are real, and they are used in terribly real situations.
The police are trained that once they start firing, they do not stop until the person at whom they’re shooting cannot do harm. There was a bullet that struck Jaime in the back of the head, which Lindorff describes as “simply unjustifiable under any circumstances. If the police stopped, walked over to a fallen boy and pumped a bullet in the back of his head, it would be an execution, But that’s not what happened.
Once the shooting begins, bodies move, sometimes voluntarily and sometimes not. Bullets end up in places that weren’t the target at the moment the trigger was pulled. When a person spins, or falls, or twists, it could cause a properly aimed bullet to strike an inappropriate place. It happens in the heat of the moment. It happens even though it shouldn’t. It happens.
A hundred different things could have altered the outcome in the hallway of the Brownsville middle school, and Jaime Gonzalez might still be alive. I wish they had. I wish he was.
But the police did not use excessive force. The police did not engage in misconduct. Not this time. They did what we ask of them, and still a tragedy occurred. Sometimes, tragedies happen at the hands of police, but there is no blame to be imposed. This is one of those times.
All The News That Fits
It’s a big internet. Really big. Big enough to have room for pretty much anything and everything that wants to be here, and that means the good, the bad and the ugly all have their place. It’s a feature, as well as a flaw. For those of us who spend a decent amount of time here, it presents a dilemma.
Yesterday, Ken at Popehat wrote about the Ashton Lundeby lie, the one where a fairy tale was manufactured about how a kids was supposedly secretly detained under the USA Patriot Act, and used to demonstrate how sinister the government is. Except it didn’t happen. Conspiracy theorists seize upon stories like this to prove the evils of the government. Their opponents seize upon the perpetuation of the lie as proof that there’s nothing sinister about the USA Patriot Act.
Youtube is replete with videos of isolated incidents of police misconduct, but the government is busy trying to force Google to take them down, if they can’t arrest the miscreants before they put them up. While studiously seek to be above reproach in the accuracy of their posts, others couldn’t care less about truth when it comes to promoting their cause. Causes are big on the internet.
Dan Solove explained the impact of the internet on Individuals’ reputations in his book, The Future of Reputation. Since then, an industry arose to “fix” people’s online reputations. For a fee, they claim to be able to make the lies disappear. Or a fiction grow.
The most effective tool is for lawyers to establish their online reputations before they are attacked, Dozier said. His law firm, for instance, pre-emptively bought 3,000 domain names to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands. It also operates 100 Web sites and a dozen or so blogs, and participates in social networking sites. “All those give indexed results that are positive,” he said.
It’s ironic that Dozier is offered as a protector of reputation, when his own reputation, called “infamously thuggist,” has been called into question. With 100 websites and a dozen blogs, one would think he could manufacture any reputation he wants.
As new lawyers seek to enter the internet with running start, they hire businesses like Yodle and Findlaw to create their presence. Failed lawyers recreate themselves as gurus to teach new lawyers how to create fake internet personas to turn them into experts in six months, while others proclaim the glories of marketing as the magic bullet to success. Some bolster the crap while others fight it.
The examples never stop, but I will.
The “solution” offered by many strikes me as facile, “the cream will always rise to the top.” I sweet maxim, but hardly a guarantee. There’s far more chafe than wheat, far more lies than truth, far more crap than substance. Those of us who have spent a great deal of time on the internet believe we can distinguish the difference. I still find myself learning, often to my chagrin and embarrassment, that something I thought was accurate wasn’t, that someone I thought was legit isn’t.
I would like to think I’m fairly skeptical and knowledgeable about how the internet, and more particularly, the blawgosphere, works, and yet I keep finding mistakes on my part. If someone with my familiarity can’t manage to get it right, what is the likelihood that someone new to all this is going to be able to separate reality from fiction?
Aside from my persona as curmudgeon of the blawgosphere, having the willingness to write unpleasant things that others never would because it would interfere with their interest in being loved and adored, it’s been my purpose to be an honest broker in the blawgosphere. The pitfall is being applauded when I’m critical of something they hate, yet castigated when I’m critical of something they love. We’re all geniuses or imbeciles, according to whether you meet with the approval of each individual with a keyboard.
It’s a big internet. The place I occupy is minuscule, and in the scheme of an animal so huge, so varied, with so many heads and tentacles, I’m puny. As a vehicle of commerce, its merit is proven and undeniable. As a vehicle of thought and information, the jury is out.
The more I read, the more I try to come up with an answer to how we can distinguish the good from the bad, the truthful from the false, the manipulations that alter reality and create a fiction that is presented so well that it’s more real than IRL. I’ve come up empty. I want to be sanguine about it, like many others in the blawgosphere whom I respect, but I just can’t muster the smile.
That it behooves us, lawyers, humans, to be honest, accurate, informative and bold on the internet strikes me as something too obvious for words. And yet, I’ve come to realize this is a distinctly minority view. No matter how much room there is on the internet, or how full it becomes, its value is only as great as the merit of its content. If the content is crap, than it’s a monstrously huge pile of crap.
Postscript: Whenever I post something meta like this, someone speculates about my motivations. My motives aren’t particularly hard to figure out, at least this time. I awoke this morning to more than a thousand new emails. The majority were spam comments. Then there were the press releases, some from worthy causes, some from nutjob websites, some so unbelievably trivial as to make my head explode (The law firm of Schmuck, Douche and Dickwad announced that they’ve just rented 37 square feet in a tenement in Brooklyn!). There were the invitations to join “the most respected group” of lawyers on a website that’s been live for three hours, the requests to write guest posts for FREE!!! Of course, I got the “Beloved” emails from Nigeria, and the girls of Kazakhstan who saw my bio on the internet and want to be “deep friends” with me.
I had a dozen emails about sales being run by businesses I’ve never heard of, who inform me that I opted into their advertising, and another dozen from businesses I’ve heard of and from whom I’ve unsubscribed. There were the link exchange emails, the emails from people who read things I’ve written and want to tell me they love/hate what I wrote. And a few friends who offered some links to interesting things they found on the internet that might interest me.
But what got to me this morning was an email from someone who found me on the internet, who had a very serious problem which he explained to me in inappropriate detail, and then proceeded to tell me how he’s tried desperately to figure out what to do, reading websites, blawgs, articles, everything he could find on the internet, only to realize that he’s now more confused, more lost than ever. “What should I do,” he asked.
In all the self-promotion, puffery, agendas, lies, scams, schemes and crap, very few seem to remember that there are real people who think they can find answers on the internet, and instead find the garbage lawyers float in its place. We’re filling their heads with nonsense. We’re killing them with empty words. We swore to help them, and instead we’re killing them. If we can’t manage to do better, then we don’t deserve the internet. We’ve squandered this gift on crap, and it occurred to me that no matter what I do, what I say, it’s likely that it will continue and few of you will give a damn as long as you think there’s something in it for you.
Danger(ous), Will Robinson
When one takes the helm of so august a group as the American Bar Association, it’s wise to pick one’s enemies carefully. It’s not like there aren’t plenty of darn fine choices, assuming getting invited to official cocktail parties isn’t your primary goal, in which case the enemies list gets much smaller.
However, one group of people that you really don’t want to piss off is, well, lawyers. In particular, young lawyers. Even more particularly, young lawyers who are feeling particularly crappy at the moment for having taken on a ton of debt to become lawyers. And if we could put a head on it, the ones who can’t find a job in the law, despite their expensive edumacation, ton of debt and vision of a long life of misery ahead of them. Yet this is who William Robinson, President of the American Bar Association, chooses to blame.
From an interview with Reuters :
Robinson, a lawyer in Kentucky, said anyone entering law school has already completed an undergraduate degree or more.
“It’s inconceivable to me that someone with a college education, or a graduate-level education, would not know before deciding to go to law school that the economy has declined over the last several years and that the job market out there is not as opportune as it might have been five, six, seven, eight years ago,” he said.
Not as opportune? Well, that’s a nice way to say it’s in the toilet, with ABA approved law schools dumping about 15,000 new lawyers into a market that can’t absorb them. But what about the ABA, Will? What about its role in this fiasco? What about the studies showing that the ABA’s “management” of law schools has been a primary cause of their absurdly high tuitions, and cause for the huge debtload carried by new lawyers?
“None of the studies show that the ABA rules of certification are what’s responsible for the cost of legal education,” he said. Other factors, such as competition for professors, are driving the increase in cost, he said.
Robinson recalled his own experience paying for law school at the University of Kentucky, where he got a degree in 1971.
“When I was going to law school, and I sold my Corvair to make first-semester tuition and books for $330, a sizeable portion of the faculty had tenure. They had tenure then and they have tenure now,” he said.
That Corvair was one cool car, gas tank issues notwithstanding. But still, Will, shouldn’t the ABA do what it can to smooth the profession through tough times?
“I should take the lead in telling these schools that they should reduce their tuition to $25,000 a year? No, I don’t think I should do that. I don’t think it would be purposeful. I don’t think it would be meaningful. I don’t think it would accomplish anything for me to do that,” Robinson said.
He said “it’s a complex question as to whether the cost is higher than it should be or is justified.”
Yeah, Corvairs were really cool back then, before Nader went and screwed them all up with that unsafe any any speed crap. And William Robinson’s insensitivity and crass denial of responsibility is outrageous. It’s complex? Great! You’re the President of the ABA, presumably capable of dealing with complex issues. Deal with it.
Is there some merit to the “they should have known better” argument? Sure. Some. But his overt disclaimer of ABA responsibility isn’t merely wrong, but offensive. Too many law school with too many seats pushing out too many lawyers whose primary purpose for being there is to take their rightful place among the wealthy and important in society. Too many law professors doing too little teaching and too much whining, getting paid more than they would if they had to work for a living on the backs of students fed doctored stats by law schools in their glossy, 17-color law porn.
Anything in there strike you as curious, Will? You know, like something the ABA could have an impact on?
Naturally, disaffected young unemployed lawyers have not taken well to Robinson’s comments:
ABA President William Robinson is stupid, a dick, and a big stupid dick.
And persuasive voices like this can’t find work? Inconceivable! Yet Robinson’s knee-jerk defense of the status quo is not merely equally unconvincing, but utterly wrong. Sure, there’s some blame to be levied on the young lawyers for closing their eyes and diving head first into a pool of feces. But that’s your pool of feces, Will. Don’t deny it stinks. Clean it up.
You took the reins of an organization that putatively reflects the voice of the legal profession. The job is more than going to official cocktail parties and getting a plaque at the end of the term. The job is more than insipid defense of the way things always were, and shifting blame to the victims.
Lawyers see what’s going on, and we realize that we’ve got an untenable system. At best, we can call it structural unemployment. At worst, we’re running a scam. Regardless of how it’s characterized, we know it’s a disaster. Are you seriously claiming that you, Mr. ABA President, don’t see a problem here?
These young lawyers, for better or worse, are the future of our profession. They’re turning to mush before our eyes. They consider our ethics and obligations archaic remnants of the once-noble profession because they are being crushed by their current circumstances. Desperate people don’t have the latitude to worry about which club tie they wear; they’re hungry. And you, Will, are telling them to eat cake?
Much as I hate to use such profane language here, there is no escaping one conclusion based upon the myopia and insensitivity reflected in these statements. William Robinson is a stupid dick. More importantly, his thoughts do not reflect those of any lawyers I know, who fully recognize that the ABA is a primary source of the problem, and thus a primary source of solutions.
And instead of trying to fix the problem, the president of the ABA blames the victims. What a disgrace. What a stupid dick.
When Lawprofs Troll
Utah Lawprof Michael Teter posted something funny over at PrawfsBlawg. The title was Campos is Right, but it has absolutely nothing to do with scamblogging hero Paul Campos. It was just to troll.
I’m going to let you in on a secret. Those of us who guest blog here measure our success by one criterion alone: whether we get the mainstays of the Prawfs family to comment on our posts. Only when we see the likes of Dan Markel, the two Ricks, Howard Wasserman, and all of the other folks listed to the immediate right, in the comments do we know that we’ve truly arrived. And let’s not forget Orin Kerr. I won’t hide the satisfaction I felt upon seeing that my first post on Prawfs drew a response from Orin himself. A day late, sure, but that only adds to the power and mystique. The comment was succinct and witty – pure Orin Kerr.In other words, Teter wanted to grab the attention of the big boys of the Prawfosphere, with a post that would draw them by title, then amuse them by wit. Such fun! It really was a very cute concept, and let the rest of us peer into a window of the Academy and see how the baby prawfs jockey for attention from the big boys.
But as is so often the case, cute ideas are seized upon by the miserable, whose inability to find humor compels them to turn everything into rant. The first commenter posted a long, cogent but misguided reaction about how Teter’s use of the Campos’ name for the trivial purpose of making a joke reflected the prawfs underlying failure to address the scamlawyer problem. The author of the comment, voodoo94, anticipated that his comment would be removed by PrawfsBlawg honcho Dan Markel.
And so it was.*
I don’t blame Dan Markel for tossing the comment, both as a matter of right and because voodoo94 sought to hijack the comments and turn it to his issue. Invocation of the name of Campos, deity of the disaffected, unemployed young lawyer, does not mandate serious reflection on their issues. This was a lighthearted post, though revealing in its own way, and Teter is allowed to have some fun with Campos’ name. There are other post, other blawgs, that deal with a very real and serious problem. Not every post mentioning Campos has to wear a frown.
But the tale took a strange turn after Dan sought to justify his removal of the comment. He wrote:
Dealing with comments presents one of the most troublesome aspects of blawging. As these things go, voodoo94’s comment was thoughtful, cogent and interesting, even if it really had no place in this post. In the scheme of unwanted comments, this was about as good as it gets. It gets far, far worse.On the topic, I should note that I’m meeting with a tech guru soon and I’m thinking we might create a special passport to commenting on posts, if that’s technically feasible. The idea would be only pre-cleared commenters would be able to comment, sort of similar to the way facebook allows you to comment on things without intermediation, but only b/c the poster knows who’s commenting. Anyway, we’ll see, discuss and explore. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Dan Markel | Jan 5, 2012 6:04:13 PM
But Dan’s reaction, which I presume to be a reaction to undesired comments generally and not to this comment alone, is even more troubling. What I take from this is that law professors want to write, to opine, to spread the wealth of their brilliance, but only want to hear from those who either matter to them because of their predetermined ideas or their stature.
They hate this phrase, but it applies: this is the circle-jerk. This is the set-up of opining without fear of disagreement by the unwashed, the vulgar, the disaffected, the disagreeable. This allows scholars the platform to publish the ideas while insulating them from the scrutiny of their lessers or their foes.
While few practicing lawyers feel compelled to spend much time admiring the ideas promoted on lawprof blawgs, I read them. I’ve learned from them. I’ve agreed and disagreed with them. And because I happen to have this blawg, I can write about them. Others don’t have a similar platform.
Some prawfs have told me that they agree with me in private, but can’t possibly do so publicly because of the intense intra-Academy politics. Others have told me that I’m a blithering ass. Agreement and disagreement is how ideas work, and no one’s ideas, theirs or mine, are worth spit if not subject to scrutiny. Even the scrutiny of the great unwashed, trench lawyers.
As it turned out, Michael Teter’s humorous, light-hearted poke at grabbing the attention of lawprawfs whose interest he hoped to capture, by invoking the controversial Campos name, produced a far more interesting reaction than he would have imagined. If Dan Markel only wants an echo chamber, or the applause of his pre-approved friends, then my take is that he’s announcing that the ideas published at PrawfsBlawg aren’t capable of withstanding scrutiny, and therefore unworthy of being taken seriously. He diminishes his blawg.
So Teter trolls for attention from his seniors. Voodoo94 trolls for attention for his cause. And Markel trolls for attention from his cheerleaders. Instead of a place where ideas thrive, this will turn PrawfsBlawg into a place where ideas die.
* When I read the comment prior to its deletion, a squeaky voice inside me said, “copy this comment just in case Dan deletes it.” So I did. Here it is, for anyone who wants to read it.
I feel that this post is just sad. In its own way, it bolsters Campos’ argument that it is nearly impossible to get most legal academics to see the human and financial toll of the law school crisis facing most recent graduates – particularly those at 3rd and 4th Tier Schools.
Instead of taking a stand – one way or the other, right or wrong – on Professor Campos’ work, the author uses the post as an obsequious ode to the “LawPrawfs” who run the blog. No opinion is even ventured about the state of legal academia or the sustainability of the current educational/financial model at schools ranked lower than the Top 50. Hell, even the candid perspective of a junior faculty member entering academia at a time of such uncertainty over the efficacy and viability of the current US News-driven business model would be helpful. After all, in a time of contraction, wouldn’t the untenured be the first to go? Those of us outside the Ivory Tower, would find your thoughts on this quite illuminating.
I do not mean to single out Professor Teter here, but isn’t this emblematic of the go-along-to-get-along culture in academia – particularly among junior faculty seeking tenure? It seems that junior faculty are given a long leash to critique many subjects, but there is an unspoken rule to stay away from examining the stability of the Langdellian mothership.
My frustration extends beyond the junior faculty (who at least have the power dynamic of tenure status to explain their behavior). The uncritical examination of the status quo is also endemic to senior tenured faculty. I am especially frustrated by many of the 50, 60 and 70 somethings that comprise the remnants of the “critical legal studies” movement. If the law school “scam” (I use the term as a colloquialism, not as a statement of fact), isn’t a ready-made issue for CLS examination, what is? It’s got all the elements that should theoretically spur CLS inquiry. It hasn’t. The silence of the CLS community also reveals that in most quarters of legal academia, it’s safe to rail against many things – just not the structure of legal education itself.
Finally, I take a far less charitable view of Professor Markel’s censorship than Professor Teter does. In my limited and admittedly brief time reading this blog, I find that Professor Markel’s “quick draw” efforts to delete posts and close comments unsettling. I don’t know why he finds differing opinions so unsettling, but he does. His recent decision to delete a benign (and on topic) comment questioning the ethics of faculty accepting free food and drink from fourth tier Drexel Law School stands out to me. Of the “regulars”, he stands out as especially dismissive of any concerns raised by recent graduates and that is unfortunate. Dismissing the viewpoints of others grounded in personal experience/tragedy is unfortunate, but heavy-handed aggression towards those with different viewpoints is especially problematic. There is a special irony that this censorship occurs on a blog purportedly dedicated to “intellectual honesty.”
Posted by: Voodoo94 | Jan 5, 2012 8:22:42 AM
The Year of the Flawg
Mere hours into a new year, and spit is shooting from Brian Tannebaum’s mouth.
But yesterday, the first day back for most lawyers, brought out the rash of shit that is the failed and former lawyers, and those with no business advising anyone in the legal profession, going on and on about why lawyers need to “get on board,” with social media and shiny toys. It was like they were holding their breath for 3 weeks and just couldn’t take it anymore. The flood gates opened – where was their next desperate lawyer looking to “harness the power of social media?” Where was the next broke lawyer looking to learn which Apple product they were required to have to “survive?”
Sound familiar? Wipe that drop of spittle off your face and take a trip across the pond to Scottish solicitor Brian Inkster’s blog.
Adam Wagner refers to the Orwell Prize.
The Orwell Prize is Britain’s most prestigious prize for political writing. Every year, we award prizes for the work – the book, the journalism and (since 2009) the blog – which comes closest to George Orwell’s ambition ‘to make political writing into an art’.
Ironically, the only way to win an Orwell Prize is to enter and promote one’s own work, a notion that would make Orwell’s head explode, as my Brit pal CharonQC delightfully notes. Inkster applaud’s Wagner’s honesty, if not his direction. He is a flawger, and darn proud of it.
Antonin Pribetic, who offered the original definition of ‘flawg’ and ’flawger’, considered 2011 to have been “a banner year for Flawging” in his recent post: Flawging a dead horse.
Will 2012 see more lawyers coming out of their Chambers as flawgers? Perhaps it will be the year when that Elephant in the #LawBlogs Room is no longer ignored.
Back at home, Ken at Popehat (yes, we know who Ken really is, but he will forever be enshrined in the Pantheon of Blawgers as Ken at Popehat) screws with the industrious marketers who function under the belief that lawyers are all, deep in their dark hearts, flawgers.
My new pal Feculent is right about one thing — our firms have not met. That’s because my firm is a law firm, and his firm is lodged, like a partially absorbed suppository, in the legal referral industry.
It’s becoming increasingly clear that Ken has a particularly keen olfactory sense, which manifests itself in his descriptions. Mark Bennett, having played this game with marketers many times in the past, never wrote about the smell.
Many of you reading this, judges, prosecutors, public defenders, have no interest in flawging (and why you’re still reading is beyond me), as the last thing you need is more business. For lawyers with a payment due on the Ferrari (which looks remarkably like Hyundia) and mouths to feed, the silent telephone is breaking their hearts. And for the new lawyers, wondering what the chances are that a job is going to appear on Skyrim as they sit on the old couch in their parent’s basement, flawging may be their only hope.
To the chagrin of the smiling marketers, the SEO salesmen, the schemers who claim they have big money cases just waiting for you to sign onto their network, the lawyers online are still a small group. It’s not that the rest of them don’t have access and a keyboard, but they have yet to jump on board. Each day, a few more close their eyes, hold their nose, and take the leap.
These are the n00bs targeted by the snakeoil salesmen, and they haven’t grown inured to the schemes and scams. The fresh blood is targeted, and easily taken in by the former lawyers and their cohorts whose own financial security is dependant on the foolishness and ignorance of the desperate.
With each new year, and each hungry mouth, a lawyer finds his way to the gutter of the web, where he’s promised success and prestige if only he buys the magic secret answer.
And with each new year, someone has to warn off the n00bs, repeating what has been said before, that there is no magic secret answer. Will 2012 be the year that Flawging becomes respectable? Will this be the year when the bulk of lawyers, finally realizing that they have to “get on board” or die, walk down the internet boulevard in their newly purchased hotpants?
Those of us who have been around for a while, and whose eyes (and nose) aren’t shielded by self-interest and rationalization to justify why we’ve been wallowing in the gutter in the vain hope of making that nasty old phone ring, engage in a battle for survival. The public may have little respect for lawyers, but lawyers have little respect for themselves, earning the public’s disdain. So we fight to stop the slide into the gutter. We write to tell the hungry and desperate that they are being sold a lie.
Someone, today, will read this post who knows nothing about the blawgosphere, but has heard that if he starts a flawg, his phone will ring and his children will be fed. Maybe he will be persuaded to read Tannebaum’s post, dodging the spit, or Ken’s post (holding his nose), or Bennett’s post (with no body part necessarily involved) and realize that going down the path of flawging won’t make him a success, but will cost him his dignity, and contribute to the disgraceful conduct of lawyers on the internet.
Maybe. It’s worth a try. It won’t get you any new readers, or any new business, or any awards, or likely any friends. It might save some poor schmuck from pissing away his last few dollars. It will certainly be a laboring oar in the effort to maintain the last vestiges of dignity of lawyers on the internet.
Don’t let 2012 be the Year of the Flawg. It won’t save your practice or feed your children. It will bring our profession into further disrepute.
Dearly Deported (Update)
Don’t blame ICE, the cool acronym for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Blame Jakadrien Turner, the 14 year old girl who ran away to Houston, got caught stealing something (a loaf of bread?) and gave the coppers a fake “Spanish” sounding name that just happened to be the name of a 22-year-old Columbiana illegal, who had some warrants and a seat on the next flight out.
Hasta Luego, Chiquita.
With the help of Dallas police, Lorene Turner searched for her missing granddaughter:
“It’s very frustrating,” Lorene Turner said.
She has spent hours on Facebook trying to find her granddaughter, Jakadrien.
“Once I get home I am up until 3 or 4 in the morning searching and looking,” Turner said. “It’s all I can think about. Finding my baby.”
Turner has been searching for Jakadrien since the fall of 2010, when she ran away from home. She was 14 years old and distraught over the loss of her grandfather and her parents’ divorce.
She ultimately found her on Facebook. In Columbia, where Jakadrien, now 15, had been shipped by ICE.
ICE took the girl’s fingerprints, but somehow didn’t confirm her identity and deported her to Colombia, where the Colombian government gave her a work card and released her.
“She talked about how they had her working in this big house cleaning all day, and how tired she was,” Turner said.
Naturally, ICE is investigating how such a horrible mistake could possibly happen. Being a helpful sort of guy, I’m happy to save ICE the effort. One of your grocery clerks was too lazy to do the job, and went off the name along (forget prints, DOB, all those other cool metrics used to identity a person), stamped the papers for deportation and, woosh, another file closed. So what if she was African-American and spoke no Spanish. That’s not the criteria on the grocery list anyway.
So Jakardian was reunited with Grandma, right? Well, not quite.
U.S. Federal authorities got an address. U.S. Embassy officials in Colombia asked police to pick her up.
But that was a month ago, and the Colombian government now has her in a detention facility and won’t release her, despite her family’s request.
Want to bet nobody at the U.S. Embassy thought it was a good idea to just ask Jakadrien to come on by? The News8 story provides no insight into why she is now in custody, but it seems likely that there are comestibles empleados in Bogota, just like here.
Things like this shouldn’t happen. They do, but they shouldn’t, because we have plenty of rules, tons of technology, procedures, all of which exist for the purpose of things like this not happening. And yet they do. That Jakadrien gave Houston police a fake name is likely to be the hook, with the great might of the United States government, as reflected by ICE, pointing the finger at a 14-year-old’s childish effort to conceal her identity.
People have been concealing their identities for a long time. Law enforcement knows it, and manages to find amazing ways to beat the effort when they want to. Then again, when they couldn’t care less (as in, when they put the wrong person in jail and spend the next few months deliberating over the identity of the warm body) mistakes happen. As Walter Olson noted, in L.A. County, it can happen as much as once a day.
It’s not that we lack for procedures to assure the identities of those taken into custody. Even without an effort to conceal identity, there are lots of people who share the same or similar names. We’ve long known that names aren’t enough to identity anyone since the late Renaissance. Dates of birth, social security numbers, identification numbers stamped on mug shots all help.
It’s not that we lack the technology, whether via fingerprints, DNA, biometrics, to distinguish one person from another. The government is behind mountains of technological advancements to identify people, not to mention their thoughts and intentions. We’ve got tech up the wazoo.
When someone with a modicum of authority within the vast and powerful government of the United States is so cavalier as to send a 14-year-old runaway to Columbia, the natural impulse is to attribute venality to the person. But it’s far more likely that it’s just pure, unadulterated laziness. Cliché alert: A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Despite the trillions of dollars, the wealth of cool gadgets, the serious words of press releases, everything eventually comes down to somebody doing their job properly. Human error.
“ICE takes these allegations very seriously,” said ICE Director of Public Affairs Brian Hale. ” At the direction of [the Department of Homeland Security], ICE is fully and immediately investigating this matter in order to expeditiously determine the facts of this case.”
ICE officials also noted there have been instances where ICE has seen cases of individuals providing inaccurate information regarding who they are and their immigration status for ulterior motives.
I told you they would blame Jakadrien. If they admit that some lazy imbecile couldn’t be bothered to take the additional step of verifying this child’s identity before putting her on a plane, then the entirety of the structure of government, with its vast power and resources, might be suspect. Because no matter how much money we pour into it, no matter how many procedures they have or how much tech is at their disposal, no one has figured out a way to remove humans from the process. To err is human.
And this time, there’s a 15-year-old African-American girl who speaks no Spanish sitting in a Columbian jail because of it. Bienvenidos a Columbia, Jakadrien. Next time, don’t make it so difficult on the grocery clerk if you know what’s good for you.
Update: She’s coming home.
Jakadrien Lorese Turner, 15, flew from Bogota to Atlanta and is expected to arrive in Dallas tonight, her mother tells the Associated Press.
What are the chances she’ll be arrested at the border as an illegal re-entry?
40,000 New Reasons to Say “I’m Sorry”
Via Radley Balko, MSNBC reports :
About 40,000 state laws taking effect at the start of the new year will change rules about getting abortions in New Hampshire, learning about gays and lesbians in California, getting jobs in Alabama and even driving golf carts in Georgia.
Many laws reflect the nation’s concerns over immigration, the cost of government and the best way to protect and benefit young people, including regulations on sports concussions.
Some laws are trivial. Some are significant. Some will affect you. Some won’t. Some will force you to pay a big fine. Some will put you in jail. Some will save a life. Some are intended to save a life but won’t.
Proponents of each of these laws will no doubt be happy to explain why it’s needed and why it serves the greater good. And they may be right, in some if not all instances.
But what this speaks to, in the big picture sense, is that we’ve become a nation of people who believe that everything, every ill, every wrong, every potential problem, every potential good, requires a law. Anyway you twist it, 40,000 is a lot of laws. And those are just the ones that will become effective now. We’ve got some laws from last year too. And the year before.
If this is how you see a better society, a safer society, a more fair society, being achieved, then this is great news. Just remember that the maxim, ignorance of the law is no excuse, remains in full force and effect, and it’s not up to you to define and decide which laws you think are worthy and which aren’t worth spit.
Legislatures pass laws because people complain about problems that need fixing. This is the only hammer they have. With each new law comes a new opportunity to violate it. With each violation comes the potential for getting in trouble. That’s 40,000 new ways to get into trouble.
Have we fixed all your problems yet? Is everything perfect? No? Not to worry. By the start of next year, we’ll have more laws. No doubt everything will be perfect then. And if not, we’ll just keep making more laws until we get it right.

